[extropy-chat] against ID

[kevinfreels.com]

How refreshing! I especially liked this statement: "If they respect the
results of modern science, and indeed the best of modern biblical research,
religious believers must move away from the notion of a dictator God or a
designer God, a Newtonian God who made the universe as a watch that ticks
along regularly."

This is a major shift in Christian thinking. I wonder if it will make it's
way to the Baptists, or if they will just see this as another reason to
dislike Catholics.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amara Graps" <amara at amara.com>
To: <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>; <wta-talk at transhumanism.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:58 AM
Subject: [extropy-chat] against ID


> some big news in the last weeks:
>
> >Vatican official refutes intelligent design theory
> >http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=17691
>
> I said :
> At 8:55 AM +0100 11/19/05, Amara Graps wrote:
> >Nice. I do wonder if Ratzinger is aware of what his chief astronomer
> >said, though. If any here have questions of the ID view from the Vatican
> >Observatory (that _other_ piece of the Vatican City country located in
> >the middle of Italy's Castel Gandolfo), I will be visiting there in
> >about 10 days and I can ask.
>
>
> I asked Guy Consolmagno at the Vatican Observatory (the man who made
> the statement in the news report: George Coyne is Consolmagno's boss).
> They are in accordance with each other. According to Guy, the Pope
> refutes intelligent design theory too.
>
> (I don't have words to describe the Vatican Observatory, every corner
> demonstrated a fantastic piece of history. Four-hundred year old
> books, research papers by Newton, Maxwell, scientific instruments for
> the most clever purpose, 19th century telescopes, original documents
> by the Apollo astronauts given as gifts to the Pope, a log book of
> visitor signatures that included Eddington, Hertzsprung, Russell,
> Oort... I was in another world for some hours.)
>
> Amara
>
>
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