[extropy-chat] National Sovereignty question

Sun Sep 11 15:59:27 UTC 2005

Emery is a wanted fugitive, but not a war criminal or illegal
combatant. Even though there is a 'war on drugs', if he hasn't engaged
in violence, then he's not a combatant, illegal or otherwise.

As to whether Canada will extradite him, that is a question for
Canadian courts to decide. Given the way Canada has treated our friend,
Mr. Hansen, with an attitude that US courts are fair and just so he
shouldn't get asylum, that policy would be weighed against the long
standing Canadian tradition of manufacturing for export products the US
has banned, as was done during Prohibition, when Canadian breweries and
distilleries made many millions off of the US black market. I suspect
he may have a fight, but would likely win in court.

The US would likely not engage in a clandestine rendition of him, given
he is not a terrorist.

--- "Lifespan Pharma Inc." <megao at sasktel.net> wrote:

> Not to drag out another piece of politics into this arena but it does
> 
> seem to make a good case study
> relative to  some of the recent discussion.
> 
> The USA has declared  Marc Emery an Enemy of the State much as it
> would 
> a foreign terrorist.
> Marc Emery has asked the world to be his judge.
> 
> Here we have a real example of  actions  meant for terrorists and 
> murderers being applied to
> the act of "conspiring" to promote the production of cannabis in the
> USA 
> being applied
> to a 10 year period retroacatively.
> 
> The response the USA Goverment will get is being done tit for tat.
> The question is, will all nations  publicly state that they will 
> subjugate their citizens rights
> to laws that are under dispute even in the nation state taking 
> extra-national action
> in an executive fashion to enforce them.
> 
> The question has been called.
> 
> ***************************************
> 
> Pot activist Marc Emery rallies supporters in front of U.S. consulate
> 
> by AMY CARMICHAEL
> Saturday, September 10, 2005
> http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/050910/n091039A.html
> 
> VANCOUVER (CP) - Marc Emery took a hit from a joint as his fans
> smoked and
> screamed for his freedom in front of the U.S. consulate.
> 
> The King of Pot, as he is described by American prosecutors, faces
> extradition for seed sales - a crime that isn't prosecuted in Canada
> - and
> up to life in prison if convicted by a U.S. court.
> 
> In the same breath, supporters gathered around him demanded
> sovereignty for
> Canada and the worldwide legalization of pot.
> 
> People everywhere are outraged and scared it could happened to them,
> declared 47-year-old Emery.
> 
> "I want to tell you," he shouted above the yells, "You are part of a
> great
> awareness. Today, 40 cities around the world, from Warsaw, Moscow,
> Russia,
> London, Paris, Madrid, Italy, they are rallying at Canadian
> consulates
> around the world. In Melbourne, Australia, and Sydney, Canadian
> embassies
> are being picketed!"
> 
> Emery said there are about 50 pot seed companies in Canada selling
> seeds
> every day. The businesses, people who buy from them, people who smoke
> pot,
> believe in Canadian sovereignty, are all appalled he said.
> 
> Emery also referred to a poll by a daily newspaper that showed the
> majority
> of Canadians are opposed to his extradition.
> 
> "People understand if it happens to me, it can happened to a New
> Zealander,
> a Mexican person. It can happen to an Australian or a person in
> England or
> Paris.
> 
> Police officers looked on as Emery spoke and clouds of pot smoke
> billowed
> above the crowd. One officer commented that it was a nice day and
> that he
> was glad it didn't rain.
> 
> A number of parents stood in the crowd with babies in strollers. Greg
> Popler
> had his two-year-old son with him as he joined in to support Emery.
> 
> "For me this is more about Canadian sovereignty. I support the
> legalization
> of all street drugs, but I'm most against the idea of the U.S. being
> able to
> take Canadians down to face their brand of justice, which is
> different from
> ours."
> 
> Emery's extradition hearing starts Sept. 16 in B.C. Supreme Court.
> 
> The longtime pot activist is accused of selling marijuana seeds to
> Americans
> through the Internet and the mail, conspiracy to manufacture
> marijuana and
> conspiracy to engage in money laundering.
> 
> His co-accused are Michelle Rainey-Fenkarek and Gregory Keith Smith.
> 
> The trio was arrested in July after Vancouver police raided Emery's
> pot
> paraphernalia store following an 18-month investigation by the U.S.
> Drug
> Enforcement Administration.
> 
> Emery was picked up in Lawrencetown, N.S., while speaking at a music
> festival to raise funds for a medical marijuana organization.
> 
> He was detained in a Halifax-area jail cell for several days before
> being
> transferred to Vancouver.
> 
> During his brief tour and incarceration on the East coast, Emery made
> quite
> an impression. Supporters rallied for him in Halifax in front of city
> hall
> Saturday.
> 
> "Halifax is important for this demonstration because this is where
> Marc
> Emery was arrested originally . . . and this whole procedure
> started," said
> Marc-Boris St-Maurice.
> 
> St-Maurice, who founded the Marijuana Party before jumping to the
> federal
> Liberals, said if Emery broke the law he should be prosecuted in
> Canada.
> 
> 
> © The Canadian Press, 2005
> 
> http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/050910/n091039A.html
> 
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Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
Founder, Constitution Park Foundation:
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Personal/political blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com

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