[extropy-chat] Extropy and libertarianism

[Natasha Vita-More]

Dirk and everyone,

I think that my response to Dirk came off as too harsh.  Please forgive me 
if this is so.  Sometimes I am not fully confident that I understand Dirk, 
and could have miscalculated.  My response is that if Dirk thinks that 
extropy can be interpreted in a myriad of ways, this is off the mark 
because extropy = extropy.  Interpretations of an ideological outcome from 
extropy can indeed be interpreted in a number of ways that authentically 
reflect the principles.  What we are striving for a viewpoint that is 
extropic and which reflects the most advantageous outcomes for transhumanity.

Best,
Natasha

At 08:31 AM 9/10/2005, you wrote:
>Dirk,
>
>I think it would be best if you respected the communications already sent 
>to this list and published elsewhere regarding Extropy Institute.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Natasha Vita-More
>
>
>At 06:53 AM 9/10/2005, you wrote:
>
>
>>On 9/8/05, Max More <<mailto:max at maxmore.com>max at maxmore.com> wrote:
>>  Clearly
>>the Principles of Extropy are highly *compatible* with a libertarian
>>view of politics -- more so than with any other identifiable
>>viewpoint that I know of. It doesn't follow that they are
>>*restricted* to only that one, exact political philosophy. A dogmatic
>>view of political and economic systems would be incompatible with the
>>principles of rational thinking and perpetual progress.
>>As I've said many times, the Principles are *not* compatible with
>>socialism, but do not rule out *possible* exceptions to strict
>>libertarian answers. The ultimate goal is not adherence to
>>libertarian doctrine, but to advancing our lives in *all* the ways
>>described in the Principles. As far as I'm concerned, that *might*
>>mean, for example, some government funding of basic research. And it
>>might not -- I'm not at all sure on this issue at the moment. It
>>*might* mean some laws limiting private property rights -- such as
>>might be needed to conduct inspections of research labs working with
>>extremely dangerous materials (nanostuff, AI, whatever).
>>
>>
>>IMO ExI Principles are a matter of *interpretation*, only one such being 
>>Uber Libertarianism.
>>If this is not so then you can kiss much future membership goodbye.
>>
>>As Transhumanism moves from the perceived lunatic fringe populated by 
>>fanatical True Believers into the cultural mainstream populated by people 
>>a lot less committed to any single political POV this is going to be even 
>>more apparent. Trying to maintain ideological purity is a recipe for 
>>internicene squabbling, witch hunts and heretic bashing reminiescent of 
>>the history of 'pure' Socialism with its petty factions and interminable 
>>cry of 'splitter!'.
>>
>>ExI, and its membership, must decide soon if it is going to be a bastion 
>>of purity or whether it is going to set itself up to attract mainstream 
>>support. We certainly know what the WTA has decided.
>>
>>Dirk
>>
>>
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><http://www.natasha.cc/>Natasha <http://www.natasha.cc/>Vita-More
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>Studies of the Future, University of Houston
>President, <http://www.extropy.org/>Extropy Institute
>Founder, <http://www.transhumanist.biz/>Transhumanist Arts & Culture
>
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<http://www.natasha.cc/>Natasha <http://www.natasha.cc/>Vita-More
Cultural Strategist, Designer
Studies of the Future, University of Houston
President, <http://www.extropy.org/>Extropy Institute
Founder, <http://www.transhumanist.biz/>Transhumanist Arts & Culture

Knowledge is the most democratic source of power.  Alvin Toffler
Random acts of kindness... Anne Herbet

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