[extropy-chat] The NSA's disclosures on UFOs

The Avantguardian avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 26 06:32:32 UTC 2006



--- Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
> Since military pilots are "up there" more often and
> around more  
> exotic conditions and spend more time scanning the
> skies, I would  
> suspect that a disproportionate number of such
> reports would come  
> from military pilots.

Very true but I would hazard to guess that they would
also be less likely to try to intercept weather
balloons, swamp gas, or the planet Venus in their
fancy flying death machines than "civillian"
witnesses.

> The only added datum in this paragraph is possible
> collaborating  
> radar evidence.  Since I presume military pilots
> aren't given to  
> hallucination this says at best that at least some
> portion of things  
> they saw were real physical objects not transparent
> to radar.  It  
> doesn't suggest these somethings where
> extra-terrestrial though.

No but given the current state of world affairs, I
think it actually more likely that Extra Terrestrials
would have this kind of technology rather than the
Russians, the Iranians, or the Cubans. 

> I don't see anything of terrible significance about
> 1975.  Do you?

No, other than the information is old enough that the
government feels it safe to disclose it to the public.
As opposed to the stuff that happened yesterday.

> 
> Since military pilots spend a lot of time around
> military  
> installation where these nuclear weapons, air
> systems and so on are  
> it is not at all surprising that many of the
> sightings are around  
> such locations.  As many types of experimental
> aircraft also fly  
> around such locations we may have a partial
> explanation of at least  
> some sightings.

I considered that possibility but the guys that work
at nuclear missile bases tend to already have really
high security clearances to begin with. Why would the
government go to such lengths to conceal scuh
experimental craft from employees that were so
thoughroughly screened to be entrusted with so many
secrets already? If it were just the test flight,
don't you think that at the very least the brass in
the radar towers would be warned about such a test
before hand? I mean it would make for fewer witnesses
if they stood down the fighters before they made
contact and why would they risk a panicking fighter
pilot actually "going hot" and trying to shoot one of
their fancy new prototypes down? . 

>   Also such sites are targets for
> surveillance by  
> other terrestrial parties using whatever perhaps
> exotic systems can  
> be fielded.

Well obviously that's why they scrambled the jets in
the first place to make sure it wasn't the Russians or
some other terrestrial country flying into the
restricted airspace of the holiest of holies.
 
> As you are using Windows strange behavior and lack
> of security is  
> something I am surprised you saw as an anomaly.  :-)

Hehe. Unfortunately I don't get to decide what OS the
hospital uses. But unless the reputation of the NSA is
undeservedly high, I think they would have a hack for
Unix as well. ;)



Stuart LaForge
alt email: stuart"AT"ucla.edu

"A human being is part of the whole called by us 'the universe,' a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest - a kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening the circle of understanding and compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."

-St. Einstein

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