[extropy-chat] Nietszche on rational irrationality

Al Brooks kerry_prez at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 4 19:25:43 UTC 2006

You're right. It was a joke. It's comical IMO to watch very smart people move their hands around in patterns with no real connection to what they are saying. Now, if you have someone who is very aware, they can plan their hand movements to fit their speech exactly
  -- an architect can use hand gestures to depict the raising of a structure :)
  But what is your guess as to what Nietszche might have meant by 'rational grounds for abandoning rationalism'? One possible clue comes immediately to mind: living in an anomised society you might perhaps do better to go with the flow as they say and modify somewhat your thinking & behavior to match your surroundings.

  Mike Dougherty <msd001 at gmail.com> wrote:
That is still a rational thought to emulate the behavior of the group.

"Speech has no connection with hand movements" ?   Perhaps not speech per se, but communication in general often involves much more than just the audio-track of a live performance.  

Have you ever done any public speaking?  People tune-out more quickly if you are only speaking than if you engage their other senses during the speech.  That's why gesturing to convey spatial relationships, or walking around is so common among good public speakers.  (Obviously, it can be overdone.  Pacing incessantly for example is very distracting) 

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