[extropy-chat] examples of rational irrationalism

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Is rational reason rational or should we be rationing reason reasonably?
Sometimes I think that reasoning should be rationed in a way that is
rational and provides a reasonable amount of reason to every reasonable
topic.

>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 6:39 AM, Lee Corbin wrote:
>
> > The Avanguardian writes
> >
> >> Al Brooks wrote:
> >>
> >>> The question is: do rational reasons exist for
> >>> irrational thinking and behavior that enable one to
> >>> escape irrational reality?
> >>
> >> When it comes to rational irrationalism, I think these
> >> guys take the cake:
> >>
> >> http://www.vhemt.org/
> >
> > Why do you think that eliminating mankind is necessarily
> > irrational?
>
> Is rationality a free-floating abstraction disconnected from values,
> what does the valuing and what is considered valuable?  How would that
> itself be "rational"?
>
>
> > Don't you concur with the (generally accepted
> > here) version of what it means to be rational?  Namely,
> > as Rafal put it, "rationality (to use the dictionary meaning)
> > is optimizing behavior to achieve goals".   So if your goal
> > is a pristine Earth free of unnatural (i.e. human) effects,
> > then what's irrational about trying to get rid of everyone,
> > including yourself?
>
> Arbitrary goals that include one's on destruction and destruction of
> one's species are not themselves subject to a meta-judgement as to
> their rationality?   Where is the grounding for these abstractions
> being tossed about?
>
> How can it be rational to claim a naturally evolved species is
> "unnatural"?  How can it be rational to destroy the only thing on this
> rock vaguely capable of rationality?  Are we so sickened by our dizzy
> abstractions?
>
> - samantha
>
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