[extropy-chat] Protect ourselves to prevent a return to the middle ages

[Mehran]

Dear Samantha,

Slow down a little my friend, let's walk together.  I am afraid you need to
go back and start reading again from beginning with no pre-judgement, no
bias. I have to say it as it seems right to me.  Your impatience suggests to
me that not only you need to read the whole book again slowly , but you need
to read the other 5 books by Rael as well ( all free downloads) to get just
a first impression of what this is all about.  I have read  it more than 10
times, thought about it and talked about it for 15 years and my
understanding of this incredible revelation is still expanding and I am
becoming ever more awestruck.  Nothing makes more sense... 

What do you expect my friend, you are right in front of a paradigm shift,
more profound than the flat-earth disruption at the galileo's time.  Did you
expect the scientifically advanced extraterrestrial Elohim 25000 years ahead
of us come down and say your Charles Darwin got it all right!?  Well he did
not no matter how big a following he has gathered.  He proposed a theory of
evolution not even seeing the possibility of an extraterrestrial origin for
life.  

There was an evolution in the emergence of life on the earth but the
evolution was in the minds of the Elohim's scientists as described in the
book. They first created simple unicellualr organisms using genetic
engineering and then gradually created more complex animals and planst and
finally created the first human beings Adam and Eve in their own image as
described in the religious texts.  They created seven races on earth and
that is why this message is so consistent with the semi-mythical creation
stories in many cultures from far East, India, Africa, South Americans,
Eskimos and Native Americans all describing creator gods coming from sky
bringing guides (the Prophets) and wisdom.  These disparate cultures had no
contact with each other yet they all describe similar creation events in
their past...    

As you can verify an email message from your mom, once you fully know the
Elohim's message you can also try to verify it to see if it can genuinely be
from an advanced human civilization who claim to have created us. There is
an infinity of galaxies and star systems out there.  Life is not just on
this planet.

Keep reading with an open mind you will discover wonders...


LOVE
Mehran
www.rael.org


Message: 13
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:18:38 -0800
From: Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Protect ourselves to prevent a return to
	the	middle ages
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On Feb 9, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Mehran wrote:

>
> So basically almost noone has any intelligent comment on the  
> content of
> RAEL's text about the dangers we may be facing instead some just  
> want to see
> a UFO!

I got about as far in the first book as the purported aliens  
effectively denying evolution before I gave up.   That and their  
treating the Bible as somehow special did my interest in.

>
> Yes, there is proof for what RAEL brings, there is in fact  
> incontestable
> proof.  I challenge any of you to dispute the proof in a reasonable  
> rational
> way.  I have successfully defended this proof many times.  I  
> consider myself
> intellectually honest... therefore my adherence to RAEL's message  
> for this
> long.   If this discussion is not allowed on this list, fine, we do it
> offline.  Here is the proof:
>
> When you get an email message from your mother from an email  
> address unknow
> to you saying that I am at your uncle's and your dad is very ill we  
> need you
> to come asap.  For this message to be authentic to you, all its  
> statements
> must be in agreement with what you know, ie. have a Mom, have a  
> Dad, have an
> uncle, etc...  But maybe you have no idea Dad was sick... maybe he  
> was in
> perfect health 2 days ago when you spoke to him, so you have a little
> suspicion and you decide to verify the info before booking your  
> flight.
>

That is your "proof"  or is this an analogy?  What is there to  
"disprove" in that and what does it have to do with Rael?

> RAEL brings a message from a scientifically advance civilization.  The
> message speaks for itself.  You can examine it for yourself and see  
> if it
> fits the claim, is there any holes in it?

evolution.

> raises any suspicion!?

yes, no proof of extreme statements.

> Does it
> have any information that sounds like from an advance civilization?

No.  Not one word of advanced technology or science.

> Can a
> 27 year old make it all up!?

Why not?  I could.   If I was delusional besides being bright I would  
do even better.

>   do a little investigation.  then you reach a
> final conclusion one way or the other.

I did.

> The Message of the Elohim is the
> proof for the Elohim's existence, for their claims and for the fact  
> that
> they are our scientific creators and that they were the ones who  
> sent the
> Prophets.

I hope you know that mere grandiose claims are no proof at all.
>
>
> Science is their religion and they want us to understand them  
> rationally and
> intelligently.

Good.  They can start by presenting something, anything, beyond human  
science.

> Now do you still want a ufo instead of an intelligent
> message!?

An intelligent message would be nice.  Rael's books don't present one.

>   A ufo can appear and disappear but an intelligent message stays
> with you for as long as you choose.
>
> The message is a free download here: www.rael.org    Just one rule,  
> you have
> to read it before you dispute it.

It is too full of endless assertion without proof and contradictions  
of known facts to be worth reading in full.

>
> LOVE
> Mehran
> www.rael.org
>

If you are so full of LOVE then give the people something more than  
self-assured assertions.  Otherwise your LOVE is empty noise.

- samantha