[extropy-chat] Muslim Machinations (was Protect ourselves to prevent a return to the middle ages)

[Dirk Bruere]

On 2/10/06, Max M <maxm at mail.tele.dk> wrote:
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> Robert Bradbury wrote:
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> >
> > On 2/10/06, *Dirk Bruere* <dirk.bruere at gmail.com
> > <mailto:dirk.bruere at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     What can they do?
> >     Turn every society in which they take residence into a mirror
> >     image of N Ireland at its worst, with every critic having to fear
> >     imminent death. For decades.
> >
> >
> > There are days when I look at those generally peaceful Mexican
> > Catholics migrating largely to the southern and western U.S. as not
> > such a bad thing -- compared to the situation the Europeans are facing.
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> Ok, I need to add a little something here. There are about 200,000
> muslims in Denmark, out of a population of 5 million.
>
> Of these, about 10-20% are practicing. Meaning that they are attending
> "churc". That is 10-20,000 in all.
>
> Attending church regularly does not exactly make one a religious
> fanatic. So all in all, there is only a minor group of "fanatics" and of
> these even fewer are prone to violence.
>
> The problem we have is the fact that the more extreme imams have been
> speaking on the behalf of all muslims. Most muslims are moderate and
> even secular, and are just going about their business. One of the good
> things that has come of this cartoon idiocy is that a group of moderate
> muslims has formed, as a counter meassure to the religious leaders.
>
> So perhaps we can begin talking about political based integration
> instead of religious now, as the imigrants do have substantial problems.
> About 50% of the prison population are imigrants, and they have high
> unemployment due to low educational levels. Although the immigrant
> girls! are educated at about the same level as "native" danish girls.
>
> It will be interresting to see how they will cope in the future with
> their families cultural bias against marrying outside their religion,
> and the males having lower levels of education.


Have some more figures.
In N Ireland the 'hard core' IRA never numbered more than around 300 people.
The war there continued for decades because of the passive acquiescence of
many Catholics, and the active support a significant minority.

How many militant Moslems does it take to emulate that?

Dirk
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