[extropy-chat] it had to happen...
Anne-Marie Taylor
femmechakra at yahoo.ca
Mon Jul 17 22:49:21 UTC 2006
Samantha Atkins wrote:
That is not just "strange". It borders on willfully stupid.
Astrology has been tested utterly flunked the test over
and over again.
Anna writes:
What parts of astrology are you talking about?
I would like to mention links when you powerfully declare
something as stupid.
Samantha wrote:
If you wanted to learn characteristics then you would study human
beings, psychology, evolutionary psychology and so on.
Anna writes:
Yes, thanks for the insight, I studied psychology in University,
maybe I wasn't paying enough attention:)
Samantha asks:
Why would you think that clumps of similar characteristics get
handed out based on your birth location and time?
Anna answers:
Based on observation.
I didn't mention location.
Why couldn't their be a correlation between the time you
are born and human characteristics? It seems pretty acurate to
say that their are only so many charactestics humans can have.
Why wouldn't their be a way to compute them?
If the time you are born is a starting point *Leo, born in August*
Why wouldn't it be likely that Leo's are born with certain
characteristics?
If i've observed enough correlation between characteristics
of Leo and characterists of Pisces, how are you contemplating
telling me my idea is stupid with no just answer but to tell me
that it's bogus or false?
Samantha wrote:
You wouldn't try to draw some bogus correlation against the
position of certain groups of stars as seen from earth.
Anna writes:
Yes Samantha, I know your feelings on pseudoscience.
Yet at the same time, I never mentioned anything about
stars, location, horoscopes or any other meaning associated
with Astrology except the time you are born.
If you have any great ideas on how an AI is going to distinguish
between human characteristics I would like to hear them.
Anna:)
Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
On Jul 17, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Anne-Marie Taylor wrote:
> Since you brought it up:)
> This is way out there, I know. But what the heck, i'm known
> now to do and say strange things:)
>
> I was wondering if astrology could help in building AI.
> Don't get me wrong, I was looking at it from the point of view
> of catagorizing certain charactestics based on the time frame
> of when your born.
That is not just "strange". It borders on willfully stupid.
Astrology has been tested utterly flunked the test over and over again.
>
> I am a strong believer in astrology based on the idea that people
> born at a certain times have similar characterics (Again, from a point
> of view of the Blue Man Theory).
> This can't be proven, I know, it's just my experiences and
> observations that have led me to be curious.
>
It has been proven bogus.
>
> Could Astrology just be a way for humans to learn about
> characterics?
>
If you wanted to learn characteristics then you would study human
beings, psychology, evolutionary psychology and so on. You wouldn't
try to draw some bogus correlation against the position of certain
groups of stars as seen from earth. Why would you think that clumps
of similar characteristics get handed out based on your birth
location and time?
>
> It would seem ludicrious to believe that human characterics are
> unique per individual therefore there must be a way compute it.
> How can something that's been around that long have no meaning
> or reason?
You can have plenty of "meaning or reason" without making up bizarre
theories like astrology or taking up such nonsense. Just because
something has been around for a long time doesn't mean it has
"meaning or reason". There are explanations for much of human nature
and human characteristics though.
- samantha
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