[extropy-chat] # What the #$?! are rights anyway?
femmechakra at yahoo.ca
Fri Jun 16 03:05:59 UTC 2006
Lee Corbin <lcorbin at tsoft.com> wrote: Amara writes
> A "right" is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man's freedom
> of action in a social context.
I agree with Robert and the others that "rights" better are thought of
as not existing---the concept just seems to throw a monkey-wrench
(i.e. spanner) into the discussion. The language, horribly, prevents
instead of facilitating communication.
>>I agree, it's pointless to argue with someone when both parties are set
>>on their own opinions.
The other side can say things like "Who should decide? Do you propose to
use force on a woman? Whose business is it?", and "what are the risks of
adding this loss of freedom to gun control, helmet-wearing, zoning,
government surveillance, and the myriads of other limitations on our
liberty? Think about those effect on our future civilization."
So: isn't it true that by avoiding questionable terms like "rights" we
forward the discussions?
>>I'm not sure I understand. To avoid the issue is the best thing to do?
>>It sounds very reasonable but then who is deciding what rights humans have?
>>Religion plays a big part in determining what rights humans have.
>>Doesn't it worry you that if the issues aren't confronted that some group, cult,
>>religion or government may, once again, come into power and dictate what are
>>Sorry if I didn't grasp your comment Lee, maybe I misunderstood. Be patient,
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