[extropy-chat] AAAS conference on retrocausation
Damien Broderick
thespike at satx.rr.com
Fri Jun 23 19:17:09 UTC 2006
[I'm told that John Cramer announced that
backward signaling of c. 50 microseconds might be feasible...]
[and yes, I'm back--hi, folks! Damien B.]
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/science/20060622-9999-lz1c22cause.html
By Scott LaFee
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 22, 2006
Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?
The answer would seem to be yes, if only because
time always moves forward, drawing not just we
few but everyone and everything onward to new era.
But what if time is like the palindrome above?
What if the so-called arrow of time flies both
ways, forward and back? What then? What now? What next?
People have debated the nature of time since,
well, people invented it. Time is, in many ways,
a fabrication of our minds, a superficial
construct that helps us explain the universe,
plot our course through existence and show up when we're supposed to.
The only reason for time is so that everything
doesn't happen at once, Albert Einstein once said.
And so it goes, one thing happens, then another
a phenomenon called cause-and-effect. It's a
notion so deeply ingrained that it's hard to
think about things any other way, said Daniel
Sheehan, a professor of physics at the University of San Diego.
But Sheehan does, as do other physicists who are
meeting this week at USD to discuss and debate
the concept of reverse causation, a fantastical
notion that suggests effects can precede causes,
and the future can influence the past, assuming
the past and future actually exist in the first place.
(The symposium is part of the 87th annual meeting
of the Pacific Division of the American
Association for the Advancement of Science.)
I don't think we've reached any kind of
consensus coherent enough to be called a state of
thinking, said York Dobyns, a physicist at
Princeton University who is attending the
meeting. There's a tremendous amount of
disagreement about reverse causation between
people who think the whole subject is just too
speculative to deal with and people who have
actually grappled with it, either theoretically or experimentally.
This much, however, can be said: While reverse
causation (also called backward or
retro-causation) may sound like science fiction,
it is firmly grounded in classical laws of
physics. These laws say time is symmetrical, that
it moves or should be able to move in all directions with equal ease.
Case in point: electromagnetism, one of the four
fundamental forces of nature. (The others are
gravity and strong and weak nuclear force.)
In the 19th century, Scottish mathematician and
physicist James Clerk Maxwell developed equations
explaining how electricity and magnetism work in
tandem. It was Maxwell, in fact, who determined
that electromagnetic energy, such as light and
radio, traveled in waves through empty space at the speed of light.
But Maxwell's equations say nothing about the
direction of time. It's irrelevant. The equations
work equally well whether electromagnetic waves
arrive after or before they are transmitted. In
effect, writes Paul Davies, a physicist at the
Australian Centre for Astrobiology and author of
About Time, the waves are indifferent to the
distinction between past and future.
Feeling dizzy yet?
Most physicists accept the idea of time symmetry
(at least in the context of things like Maxwell's
equations). The same cannot be said of reverse
causation, which goes farther by suggesting the future can influence the past.
The tendency is to ignore it, to say it's just a
fact of nature that time moves one way, said
Michael Ibison, a physicist at the University of Texas at Austin.
If reverse causation is real, it most likely
occurs at the largely theoretical and unseen
level of quantum mechanics, a place where
subatomic particles with names like mesons and
quarks interact in ways contrary to both classical physics and common sense.
To wit: Mesons exist simultaneously as both
particles and waves until they are observed. But
until they are observed, they don't exist.
Anyone who thinks they can talk about quantum
theory without feeling dizzy hasn't yet
understood the first word about it, said the
late, great Danish physicist Niels Bohr who,
incidentally, invented much of the theory.
People know how to calculate with quantum
mechanics, but that's not to say they know what
it means, agreed Sheehan. Quantum mechanics is
like poetry. The poem is right there, for
everyone to see, but it has many different interpretations.
Sheehan offers a couple of scenarios to ponder:
First, imagine a large boulder at the top of a
hill. The boulder begins rolling downhill. Now
freeze the action with the boulder midway along
its descent. Call this the boulder's present. At
this point in time, Sheehan says the boulder is
being influenced both by its past (when it was
atop the hill) and by its future (when it will
come to rest at the bottom of the hill). The
boulder's current position midway down the hill
cannot happen without the effect of both the past and the future.
The present is always a negotiation between the
past and the future, said Sheehan.
Or think about this: You're invited to a Saturday
wedding. On Friday, you go to the barber for a
haircut. As you sit in the chair, the future is
influencing the present. The wedding hasn't
happened. It may not happen at all. And yet its
possibility changes what will be the past. [[this is all *incredibly* sloppy]]
The best evidence for reverse causation perhaps
the only evidence, said Sheehan comes from
parapsychology, which investigates phenomena not
explained by the known laws of science, such as
telepathy, clairvoyance and psychokinesis (the
alleged ability to move matter with the mind).
Numbers in limbo
In 1992, a paranormal investigator named Helmut
Schmidt set up a radioactive decay counter to
generate sequences of random numbers, both
positive and negative. The numbers were recorded,
but not seen by any person. Several months later,
these numbers were shown to a group of students
who had been asked to use their mind power to
skew the sequences in favor of positive numbers.
Elaborate precautions were taken to prevent cheating.
According to fundamental physical laws, there
should have been an equal number of positive and
negative numbers. But Schmidt reported that the
students saw more positive numbers; the
probability of that happening was less than 1 in a 1,000.
Did the students actually influence the outcome
of radioactive decay rates recorded months
before? Henry Stapp, a theoretical physicist at UC Berkeley, thought so.
Stapp was one of the independent monitors of
Schmidt's experiments. Two years later, he
published a possible explanation for what had
happened. In essence, he suggested that human
consciousness had interacted with the numbers,
effectively altering the past (when the numbers were recorded).
The idea, which Stapp and others have since
expanded upon and promoted, is that human
consciousness is an unexplained, nonlinear force
of nature. Like subatomic particles in quantum
mechanics, the numbers in Schmidt's experiment
existed in a sort of limbo in which they were
positive, negative and neither until the students
saw them. At that point, human consciousness and
intent (instructions to think positive) induced
the numbers to assume a specific condition or quantum state.
The physics of consciousness is controversial, to
say the least. And Stapp is first to say much
more study and experimentation is necessary,
especially by respected scientists in well-regarded scientific journals.
You'd think people would want to either refute
or confirm some of these reports, said Stapp,
but the only people willing to test them are
people who already tend to believe them. Most
mainstream labs shy away for fear of sullying
their reputations, as if they would be dirtying
their hands by even imagining some of this is possible.
Mind games
For Stapp, who now works at the Lawrence
Livermore National Laboratories, it's not
inconceivable that quantum mechanics plays some
role in alleged paranormal phenomena like
extrasensory perception (ESP) and remote viewing,
which is the projection of one's consciousness to distant locations.
These abilities may be a consequence of
nonlocality, a well-established quantum concept
that says entities far-flung in distance or time
are still entangled and interact via a
faster-than-light, quantum mechanical connection.
Einstein called this phenomenon spooky action at
a distance. He couldn't explain it, didn't like
it and regarded it as quantum trickery.
In recent decades, nonlocality has been
repeatedly observed, tested and measured in
experiments. In one seminal experiment in 1982,
physicist Alan Aspect at the University of Paris
noted that by changing the polarity of one
speeding photon (a particle of light) he could
induce another photon from the same source
speeding in the opposite direction to change its
polarity. The interaction happened faster than
light, with sufficient distance between the
photons that they shouldn't have known what was
happening to the other. And yet, inexplicably, there was some sort of link.
In contrast, paranormal phenomena like ESP and
remote viewing are not as well-substantiated.
Supporting evidence tends to be anecdotal.
Purposeful deception and fraud are common.
In the 1970s, the U.S. Army and the CIA spent
millions investigating the potential of remote
viewing, but that effort apparently went for
naught and funding ceased. In 1979, the Princeton
Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) program
began investigating interaction between human
consciousness and the physical world. Over the
years, PEAR has produced a wealth of data
indicating human intent by itself, without any
physical connection, can alter the behavior or
results of unthinking machines. The PEAR
experiments, many similar to Schmidt's 1992
random number generator test, produced only small
effects, but they were observable, measurable and repeatable.
PEAR's operations, however, are now in the
process of closing down, with researchers moving on to other institutions.
Dobyns, an analytical coordinator for PEAR, said
he still thinks parapsychology and related areas
are useful places to look for evidence (of reverse causation).
But he is not optimistic that many mainstream
physicists will ever take up the cause. They say
it's impossible because there's no evidence and
there's no evidence because it's impossible.
But physicists like Sheehan say what we do
understand about the universe fundamentally
depends upon the idea that time is fluid and
dynamic. To say that it's impossible for the
future to influence the past is to deny half of
the predictions of the laws of physics, he said.
Nobody's predicting a speedy or conclusive
resolution to the question of reverse causation.
Sheehan says it's the journey that counts, how we
get from Point A to B to C or, perhaps, from C to B to A.
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