[extropy-chat] a.k.a is..

[spike]

Jef I didn't interpret it as an insult, but rather an 
observation.  Don't know what to do
about Anne-Marie, if anything.  She is at least a *pleasant*
clueless one, or rather just a lost sheep.  I was hoping Samantha
or you would go offline with her and offer guidance.  spike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jefallbright at gmail.com [mailto:jefallbright at gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Jef Allbright
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:05 AM
> To: ExI chat list
> Cc: spike
> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] a.k.a is..
> 
> Samantha -
> 
> My comment and question to Anne-Marie was not kind, but neither was it
> intended to be unkind.
> 
> I've noticed and known some people who appear to share two two
> attributes:  (1) They tend to spew words in a kind of disjointed,
> stream of consciousness way, making connections and asserting
> significance while lacking much semblance to critical thinking. (2)
> They have used LSD for significant periods of their life.
> 
> It's only my personal observation, and I don't know whether it is more
> likely that people who already tend to think in this mode are
> attracted to LSD, or whether taking LSD potentiates such a tendency
> over long terms (it certainly does while under its immediate
> influence.)
> 
> In my opinion and experience, altered states of consciousness, whether
> induced by meditation, medication, intoxication, or psychotropic
> substances, can be sometimes useful for helping people break out of a
> rut in their current mode of thinking, and can be useful for
> experiencing how illusory ones sense of self, perceptions and values
> can be.
> 
> Such experiences can also be a driver of creativity after, but not
> usually during, the altered state. Likewise, since such altered states
> are highly subjective and thus of little direct value to others it
> would be discourteous to post to most public forums in such a mode.
> 
> In the case of this poster on our list I have seen multiple examples
> of (what seem to me) incoherent thought with the kind of ecstatic
> mystical and erratic emotional attributes characteristic of such drug
> influence.  I don't know whether my observation and hunch is correct,
> but I'm bringing it up because I think it affects the health of our
> home on this list and should therefore be identified, rather than
> ignored, denied, protected or enabled in the manner of dysfunctional
> families.
> 
> 
> On 3/7/06, Anne-Marie Taylor <femmechakra at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
> >If I quoted Albert Einstein with: (She likes him, thinks his smart:)
> >"The body's surface layer is penetrated by energy
> >quanta whose energy is converted at least partially
> >into kinetic energy of the electrons.  The simplest
> >conception is that a light quamtum transfers !  it's
> >entire energy to a single electron..)"
> 
> Then I will say:
> >If we are all energy that equals mass, to be attracted
> >to someone, you would need gravity.
> 
> >Then, If energy equals mass times the speed of light, then
> >at certain times people meet for a specific reason.  (Or if they
> >meet and exchange energy with someone that may be causing radiation,
> >they too may become contaminated.)
> 
> >And if e=mc2, then couldn't it mean that their are
> >other energies that effect humans that may cause
> >electromagnetic fields based on the time.
> >(if you haven't already became radiation.)
> 
> >Which in turn would lead to the need to understand
> >awareness in humans? (Knowing the right time)
> 
> >Which Buddha describes: To becoming a full conscious human being.!
> >(I won't tell her it was Buddha)
> 
> >And just out of curiosity, have scientists measured awareness?
> 
> >Any comments or suggestions are always welcome,
> >it makes me smarter  >Thanks Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/7/06, Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > Huh?  Many of us over a certain age did our fair share (at least) of
> psychedelics.  So what?  This seems like a bit of a personal dig.  Was
> that your intent?
> >
> >
> > - samantha
> >
> >
> > On Mar 7, 2006, at 8:08 PM, Jef Allbright wrote:
> >
> > Anne -
> >
> > Your words in this post and others are very similar to those of people
> I've known who have taken a lot of LSD.
> >
> > Might this be the case here?
> >
> > - Jef
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/7/06, Anne-Marie Taylor <femmechakra at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi! I'm Anne-Marie Taylor
> > > a.k.a. Anne-Marie Taylor
> > > I have nothing to hide
> > > That's the new eulogy
> > > You don't need to be anything than what you are.
> > > It's a fact, but not yet proven... sry
> > >
> > >
> >