[extropy-chat] Death is irreversible v.1.1

[Eric Messick]

Heartland:
>The point of trajectories is that it is theoretically possible for an objective
>observer to distinguish between instances which proves the assertion that even
>instances of the same type are always different.

One of the main tenants of Quantum Mechanics is that this is
impossible for microscopic particles.  It's been quite well
established experimentally.  Taking as an axiom something that has
been proven wrong under significant circumstances is not valid.  You
have to choose other axioms and prove this if you want any
credibility.

Heartland:
>Identity should have nothing to do with what the object is. You can't assume
>information-based definition of identity (information is matterless) and apply it
>to the process of distinguishing things that are made of matter.

But your trajectory log, which you use to establish identity, is
nothing but information.

Mind is a computational process.  Saying that information is
irrelevant to identifying mind is a complete non-starter.

Heartland: [stating an axiom]
>2. Physical activity necessarily requires matter, and that activity *itself* cannot
>be stored in static information. (Shown in step (2) of the argument).
>[...]
>This, in turn, leads to:
>[...]
>And if so, then an absence of an instance is irreversible and no amount of static
>information that remains about that instance can bring that instance back from
>nonexistence.

But you basically assumed this above!  This is a circular argument.

-eric