[extropy-chat] backwards light

scerir scerir at libero.it
Fri May 12 19:24:38 UTC 2006


I don't know what to think of this. [...]
spike

[Not sure this post will arrive there,
for reasons still obscure - to me, and
the postmaster - I do not receive
extropic posts anymore] 

The 'ratio' should be that quantish effects
love a very strange kind of causality, 
which is 'timeless'. 
In philosophy there is, at least, another 
kind of timeless causality, the 'statistical
causality'.

Note that strange effects, such as backwards
'influences', could solve the ontological
problem of quantum entanglement (and of quantum
teleportation) [1]. The other way to solve it,
at present time, is a complete renunciation:
'correlations without correlata'. 

Here below interesting papers (from authorities) 

Chiao
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9811019
http://online.itp.ucsb.edu/online/qo02/chiao/
Pegg
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0506141
Greenberger, Svozil
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0506027
Suarez
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0311004
Susskind
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0503097
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0504039

[1] Ontology, EPR-Bohm-Bell apparatus.  
When the entangled particle-1 goes through the analyzer-1, 
informations (or Fourier transforms, or whatever) are sent, 
from there, to the source of the entangled pairs, 
backward in time, about the parameter of the analyzer-1 
(if not also about the outcome of measurement). 
So the source would 'know' these informations (at t=0), 
and the source could also 'attach' these information 
to particle-2, going the other side.
When the entangled particle-2 goes through the analyzer-2, 
informations (or Fourier transforms, or whatever) are sent, 
from there, to the source of the entangled pairs, backward 
in time, about the parameter of the analyzer-2 (if not also 
about the outcome of measurement). So the source would 'know' 
these informations (at t=0), and the source could also 
'attach' these information to particle-1, going the other 
side.
This way each particle, while traveling, knows everything 
about the story of its entangled partner. So, both particles 
might be correlated.






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