[extropy-chat] privacy rights

spike spike66 at comcast.net
Sun May 14 04:09:16 UTC 2006

> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-
> bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Samantha Atkins
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: ExI chat list
> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] privacy rights
> On May 12, 2006, at 7:19 PM, spike wrote:
> >
> > Do restart this thread if you wish, Zero...
> >
> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
> papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
> shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable
> cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing
> the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
> - Fourth Amendment to US Constitution
> How can people be secure against intrusions on their persons, papers
> and effects at any arbitrary whim of the government if the government
> presumes authority to spy upon the people in any matter it chooses?...
> - samantha

I do confess I am conflicted on this one.  What if they use that NSA
technique to find and stop a terrorist act?  What if they already have?
They wouldn't be able to report it without giving away their hand.  So by
opposing vocally the NSA actions, we would be putting lives in danger.  But
it does seem they could track only the calls that are going to known
terrorist connections or certain countries.  Or certain area codes known to
harbor bad guys.  I dunno.  I'm withholding judgment on this one for now.


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