[extropy-chat] 'a process of non-thinking called faith' 2 (2)

[Joseph Bloch]

With all due respect, Sam, I don't believe you understand the situation regarding the threat posed to the West from the Jihadists.

While it is true that not all Muslims subscribe to the Jihadist ideology, the plain fact is that the expansionist Jihadist ideology is the norm within the broad Islamic community. The vast majority of religious schools (which are just about the only schools in many Muslim nations) and mosques espouse that philosophy. It is not a fringe, or even a minority. The violent expansionist jihadist philosophy is mainstream Islam. We have our "friends" in Saudi Arabia, who have spent the last few decades spending their oil wealth building the infrastructure to propagate that interpretation of Islam, to thank. 

Comparisons to Christians (as others have made) are unsupportable. The Muslim world never underwent a Reformation as did Christianity, and is still mired in the mind-set of the Crusades which Christianity thankfully shook off several centuries ago. I will point out that Episcopalians and Baptists, while they do indeed share the vision of converting the world, stop short of exterminating those who, when presented with the choice, fail to choose to convert. 

Last time I looked, there weren't any Methodists flying planeloads of innocent people into buildings. 

They are not just "a few Muslim leaders", although I will admit they are indeed "madmen." They are the mainstream of the leadership and educational institutions of the worldwide Muslim community, and they have turned the jihadist philosophy into the mainstream of Muslim jurisprudence. 

I will be the first to admit that Christianity is not, as a rule, a friend of Transhumanist ideology. However, given a choice between Christianity and Islam, I will take the former any day of the week. At least they don't chop off the heads of people with whom they disagree. 

Joseph
http://transhumanist.blogspot.com/




Samantha Atkins wrote:

>On Nov 25, 2006, at 9:13 AM, Al Brooks wrote:
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>>Is the other side going to cease & desist? or will it continue its  
>>imperialist Islamic war? An open question.
>>Alright, it appears the first step insisted upon is for the  
>>administration to admit its errors and dissembling; so, what is the  
>>step immediately after that one? And then where do you go from there?
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>You really should stop watching Fox.  There is no "imperialist Islamic  
>war" except the rantings of a few Muslim leaders and madmen.   Check  
>out the actual military logistics of countries ruled by such madmen.   
>There is no credible military threat there.   Move along.
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