[extropy-chat] Role of Observer is not Relevant

[Rafal Smigrodzki]

On 3/30/07, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
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> Did the number 0x0bd11a0bb188f291956549705169a996110841d4 exist?

### Yes! Always and forever, timeless, just as any element of the
platonic plenum.

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> > How come numbers "exist" in silicon, or gray matter but not in the
> > number of chickens?
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> Chickens can count a bit, actually.

### This is not what I meant. A clutch of chickens always consists of
a certain number of chickens. A certain number of gates in an
integrated circuit may be in states that express a number. Why do you
say that a number doesn't exist when it is a property of a clutch of
chickens but does exist when it is a property of a piece of silicon?

Rafal