[extropy-chat] META My position on the secular sin of censorship -- Was Take a stand

A B austriaaugust at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 23 22:38:01 UTC 2007


You asked someone to take a stand, so here it is.
Eugen and the other list moderators have a voluntary
responsibility to keep topics somewhat close to what
they personally interpret as relevant to
transhumanism. I think it is more than plausible that
Eugen geniuinely felt that this was too far off-topic
for this list. You can be quite sure that there are
many other *political* lists out there that would love
to hear your views on this. You can't move it over
there? If you'd like to present your beliefs to the
people on this list... fine, it's simple. Make an
invitation for the interested parties to follow your
discussions on whatever other list you select.

Threatening a person here with what amounts to
permanent death is not going to be well recieved on
this list. You ask Eugen to be tolerant and fair of
your written viewpoints and yet you threaten him narry
a sentence later. That is extremism, Brett. Isn't that
something you're trying to get away from?

--- Brett Paatsch <bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> From: Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org>
> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 01:53:25PM +1000, Brett
> Paatsch wrote:
> > >John Grigg wrote:
> > >
> > > Attempting to impeach the current president is
> not a realistic plan 
> > >
> > > Why would you think that? 
> >
> > Folks, killthread. This is completely off-topic
> for the list.
> Eugen, just so you and I are absolutely clear. If
> you kill this thread, or call
> for it to be killed again. If your are that
> censorious, I will remember it and
> hold it against you whilst you and I live. I would
> oppose your reanimation.
> I will regard you as in the aggregate an entropic
> vector.
> I am willing to be censored off the list, it is a
> private list after all, but
> actions (like censorship) are facts that shape
> reactions. Being a person
> in a world of persons, I take things personally.
> Fair warning.
> If I am censored off the list I would take that as
> diagnostic of the
> degeneration of the list.  It is one thing to take
> issue with a persons
> arguments and say so. It is another to stop other
> people from hearing
> those arguments and expressing their reactions which
> may include
> opposition to them. I regard censorship as a form of
> killing - as do 
> you by the use of your word killthread. 
> You are yourself a transient information threaD that
> the universe
> has yet to rule on.  
> Sincerely,
> Brett Paatsch
> > _______________________________________________
> extropy-chat mailing list
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org

Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 

More information about the extropy-chat mailing list