[extropy-chat] Back to Causes of War
lcorbin at rawbw.com
Sat Apr 28 13:34:04 UTC 2007
Keith writes in a reply to BillK
>> > Even more significant (or so I think) is *anticipation* of bleak
>> > conditions. My case for this is the logic of gene selection. It would pay
>> > genes for the warriors to kill neighbors *before* they were gaunt and weak
>> > from hunger.
>> Well, that pretty well covers all options.
>> 1) the warrior group is suffering deprivation and this
>> causes war. or,
>> 2) if they're not suffering deprivation, then they are
>> probably worrying about possible future deprivation
>> and this causes war.
>> You do realize that this is a meaningless unfalsifiable argument?
> No. And there should be evidence. You should see a drop in wars after a
> major plagues because the drop in population should make for a brighter
> (less economically stressed) future for those who are left.
I will try to check it out. Well documented causes exist for the
wars between England and France that broke out in the 1300s.
The plague came later (1346) but I don't think slowed the war
any except for a bit of financial exhaustion among the rulers.
The 15th century was still very war-prone in Europe.
>> Selective political quotations can prove anything.
>> The Great Depression hit the USA far worse that Germany
> Is that true? I.e., can you cite the relative drops in GDP
> per capita for the US and Germany?
Yes, we should get to the bottom of that.
> One of the things I cited in my earliest memetics papers, long before I had
> any thoughts on what might account for it, was the inverse relation between
> US economic downturns and up ticks in neo nazi activities.
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