[ExI] Is Evolution Random?

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Mon Dec 3 15:39:30 UTC 2007

Is the Conscious Mind Subtly Linked to a Basic Level of the Universe?
     Age-old battle lines over the puzzling nature of mental experience 
are shaping a modern resurgence in the study of consciousness. On one 
side are the long-dominant "physicalists" (reductionists, materialists, 
functionalists, computationalists. . ) who see consciousness as an 
emergent property of the brain's neural networks ("brain = mind = 
computer"). On the alternative, rebellious side are those who see a 
necessary added ingredient: proto-conscious experience intrinsic to 
reality, perhaps understandable through modern physics (panpsychists, 
pan-experientialists, "funda-mentalists"). It is argued here that the 
physicalist premise alone is unable to solve completely the difficult 
issues of consciousness (e.g. experience, binding, pre-conscious 
conscious transition, non-computability and free will) and that to do 
so will require supplemental panpsychist/pan-experiential philosophy 
expressed in modern physics. In one such scheme proto-conscious 
experience is a basic property of physical reality accessible to a 
quantum process associated with brain activity. The proposed process is 
Roger Penrose's objective reduction (OR), a self-organizing "collapse" 
of the quantum wave function related to instability at the most basic 
level of spacetime geometry. In the Penrose-Hameroff model of 
"orchestrated objective reduction" ("Orch OR"), OR quantum computation 
occurs in cytoskeletal microtubules within the brain's neurons and 
links cognition with proto-conscious experience and Platonic values 
embedded in spacetime geometry. The basic idea is that consciousness 
involves brain activities coupled to self-organizing ripples in 
fundamental reality."

Hi, I have no problem about the conscious mind {experience of 
consciousness/awareness} as a self-organizing form of energy involved 
in our four dimentional universe including time, a linear one 
directional movement from unawarenees to awareness.

First there is unawareness before the so called singularity/big bang, 
then there is awareness in time/entropy expands. Now our universe's 
expansion is slowing down due to gravity/attraction between masses of 
matter but gravity has no effect in the atomic and molecular 
interactions within each brain matter.

The basic energy interactions between atoms and molecules depends on 
the negative and positive ions which are both deterministic and random.

Can our brain act both as organic and inorganic computer simulated mind 
alternating as conscious and unconscious processes?
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