[ExI] fermi paradox- weighted summary

Kevin Freels kevin at kevinfreels.com
Wed Dec 5 22:26:25 UTC 2007

I suspect that the problem with the Fermi Paradox is simply a 
misunderstanding that will be solved in time and is not a true paradox. 
For example, Reno's Paradox that was left unsolved for roughly 1400 
years was finally solved by Cantor. By comparison, Fermi's Paradox has 
been unsolved for only about 57 years. I am sure that in time the answer 
will reveal itself. I don't think John's point was that any of his ideas 
was to be a suitable solution, but instead a method of pointing out just 
how many other possibilities there are besides the so-called paradox. 
Any one of them may be right, or none of them. I think John's point was 
that it's not a true paradox. It's just an unanswered question with many 
possible answers that simply can't be tested yet. Absence of evidence is 
not the same as evidence of absence. The evidence we're looking for may 
just as well be right there in the crust of the moon or even the ice in 
our own poles for all we know of our own planet let alone the rest of 
the universe.

Seien wrote:
> On 04/12/2007, *John* <desertpaths2003 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:desertpaths2003 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>     i apologize in advance for my non-blackberry internet cell phone
>     connection which does not format well here. why must we think that
>     intelligent alien races would either self -destruct from civil war
>     or if not that, give up expansionism to become virtual lotus
>     eaters? Lol  The great powers out there may frown on
>     macro-engineering projects as being a scar on the natural beauty
>     of the universe and that is why we don't see it.  Or they may have
>     technology so advanced that they simply do not need dyson sphere
>     sized solar collectors, etc..  Perhaps they have gone
>     post-singularity and have bored into other planes of existance so
>     young races like ours have room to develop.  They may be cosmic
>     ecologists at heart.  I believe intelligent alien life is out
>     there and may even be aware of us and have our location marked
>     down on their maps as being off limits for now.  Humanity may be
>     voracious in its appetite to devour and reshape nature but that
>     may not be the
>     case out there.  I suspect for ages to come sentients will find it
>     amusing that we dared to think humanity could be alone in such a
>     vast universe.                     John grigg
> What is your reason for believing this? All I see is a typical vein of 
> anti-human insinuations running through an otherwise entirely 
> speculative assertion. 
> -- 
> ~Seien
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