[ExI] Too many level shifts was Nature Hates a Vacuum
hkhenson at rogers.com
Tue Dec 11 18:43:39 UTC 2007
At 08:31 AM 12/11/2007, Terry wrote:
>"I can't see that breeding--in a pre contraceptive era--needed any
>religious support. Generally humans populated whatever space they
>had to the maximum extent possible."
>Hi Keith, I think you "hit the nail's head" this time. Someone also
>said that "nature hates a vacuum." We are all part of nature with
>expanding memes to occupy whatever space we find in time. In the
>physical universe, energy expands according to the principle of
To a very good approximation nature is *all* vacuum. That saying
originated with experimenters at the bottom of a ocean of air in the
days when leather flap valves were high tech.
Memes, in a way sort of analogous to genes, do spread into a
population of susceptible hosts. How the susceptibility of the hosts
varies with time and the presence of other memes is a subject of
considerable interest to me.
Trying to bring in thermodynamics is shifting too many levels in a
discussion. But then I might be overly sensitive to this as a result
of some particularly bad experiences with people who should know
where their competence ends supporting a subtile vandal on Wikipedia
who was pushing his "human thermodynamic" theory.
Applying theory from one level more than a level away has to be done
with great caution. Here is my list of discussion levels.
human biology and EP
rest of biology
More information about the extropy-chat