[ExI] elections again

Harvey Newstrom mail at harveynewstrom.com
Sun Dec 30 16:28:48 UTC 2007

On Sunday 30 December 2007 08:35, Stefano Vaj wrote:
> On 12/30/07, Harvey Newstrom <mail at harveynewstrom.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday 29 December 2007 14:28, Mirco Romanato wrote:
> > > Do you prefer suppress freedom or suppress conflicts?
> >
> > I prefer that we suppress conflicts.
> I do not. If this put me for once in the "libertarian, randian, social
> darwinist" camp, so be it. :-)

I believe your choices were too limiting.  I do not believe that one has to 
choose to ignore conflicts to claims rights, or that choosing to 
resolve/avoid conflicts will reduce rights.  Even though we chose different 
choices from your dichotomy, I do not see these as opposite sides.

For example, choosing gun rights in Washington, DC is fine, except that you 
will have to hide your guns, could be arrested for having them, and will have 
them taken away the first time they are ever seen or used.  Resolving the gun 
laws first will greatly increase the ability to enjoy gun rights later.  So 
in that example, I would expect a gun enthusiast to resolve the conflict 
(change the gun laws) or avoid the conflict (move out of DC) first rather 
than choosing to ignore the law and traffic in illegal guns instead.

My entire point is that the choosing the rights will result in conflict and 
suppression of those rights unless the conflicts are resolved first.  
Resolving the conflicts is a path to enjoying the rights.  Choosing the 
rights first, and ignoring the conflict, is a less effective path to enjoying 
expanded rights.

Another example would be tax reform.  Refusing to pay one's taxes and holing 
up in a house full of guns fighting off federal marshals is not an effectrive 
choice of "freedom from taxes".  Only by changing tax laws and resolving 
other people's expectations that everyone must pay taxes can such a person 
hope to get away with it.  Claiming these rights without resolving the 
conflicts will not work.

Harvey Newstrom <www.harveynewstrom.com>

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