[ExI] Re-framing Innovation re Consciousness

Natasha Vita-More natasha at natasha.cc
Mon Dec 31 01:55:31 UTC 2007

At 12:53 PM 12/30/2007, you wrote:
>On 12/30/07, Natasha Vita-More <natasha at natasha.cc> wrote:
> >
> >  At 08:24 PM 12/29/2007, Harvey wrote:
> >
> > On Friday 28 December 2007 17:43, nvitamore at austin.rr.com wrote:
> >  > How would you reframe the concept of innovation in its relationship to
> >  > progress and change within the context of perception and its
> >  > transformation?
> >
> >  Wow.  What an amazing question with such a detailed set of options.  Such
> >  rigorous thinking and precision of expression
>Are you serious??  I see some interesting thinking but far from
>rigorous or precise.

I admit that I was abbreviating data to be brief rather than 
overboard while at the same time attempting to get the point across, 
but your condemnation is a bit unrealistic.  This list has a high 
comprehension level and all to often people waste time with 
overwriting what could be done simply.

> > Perhaps the entire dimension of transhumanism proposes is risk in motion.
> > But if risk is the probability that something will cause injury or harm, it
> > is not the correct concept.  I would not dare to enter an environment that
> > probably will cause me harm.  On the other hand, I would enter an
> > environment that could cause me harm if I was not aware of dangers.  So, I
> > would opt for the possibility of injury or harm rather than probably of
> > injury or harm.
> >
> >  Thus, there is a loophole in the pre-innovation development of 
> observing an
> > environment for its potential and possible injury or harm rather than
> > assuming that the probability of harm will ensue.
> >
> >  What do you think?
>The above appears to be a statement involving the relative merits and
>applicability of a proactionary versus precautionary stance in regard
>to intentional action within a context of uncertain risk.

No, please move from that line of thinking.  I am not interested in 
the Proactionary Principle, but in innovation in relation to 
progress/change in regards to perception/consciousness.


<http://www.natasha.cc/>Natasha<http://www.natasha.cc/> Vita-More
PhD Candidate,  Planetary Collegium - CAiiA, situated in the Faculty 
of Technology,
School of Computing, Communications and Electronics,
University of Plymouth, UK
<http://www.transhumanist.biz/>Transhumanist Arts & Culture
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is inside the circle and everything outside the circle, then that is 
an open system perspective. - Buckminster Fuller

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