[extropy-chat] Save the World
Emlyn
emlynoregan at gmail.com
Sun Feb 11 22:21:26 UTC 2007
China is looking at doing it...
http://www.edu.cn/20010101/22349.shtml
Emlyn
On 12/02/07, Emlyn <emlynoregan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's like a pair of sunglasses for the planet... very cool.
>
> Also, personally I'd be building a *lot* of nuclear reactors, and shutting
> down coal power stations. Especially here in good-ole uranium rich,
> tectonically inert Australia. Build a few more than we need to power some
> bitchin' desalination plants, and we just might be able to keep living on
> this denuded dirtwad for a coupla more years. But that's just me...
>
> Emlyn
>
> On 11/02/07, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 12:13:48PM +1030, Emlyn wrote:
> > >
> > > Couldn't we darken the atmosphere to counteract the greenhouse
> > effect?
> > > Kind of nuclear winter vs global warming...
> >
> > Instead of investing in cleaner jet fuels, he'd better
> > 1) make them burn dirty, preferrably inject ice nucleators
> > 2) fly high, as high as possible
> > 3) long-term, fly with synfuel or cryogenic hydrogen as fuel, made from
> > renewable sources
> >
> > Global dimming needs a comeback.
> >
> > As to "scrubbing greenhouse gaess out of the atmosphere",
> > that's a red herring. They're are already being rather efficiently
> > scrubbed, what is needed is reducing our emissions. And it doesn't
> > take 25 megabucks to figure out how, we already know.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Emlyn
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/02/07, Damien Broderick <[1]thespike@ satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > At 07:48 PM 2/10/2007 -0500, Keith wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I had to come
> > > > > >up with a way the energy and carbon crisis was solved. That
> >
> > > led to notes
> > > > > >so extensive as to almost constitute a business plan.
> > > > >
> > > > >Send them to Richard Branson, collect $25 million.
> > > >
> > > >Any though as to how one might show something to Richard
> > Branson?
> > > why, yes, in general terms:
> > > Airline tycoon Richard Branson has announced a
> > > $US25 million ($A32m) prize for the first person
> > > to come up with a way of scrubbing greenhouse
> > > gases out of the atmosphere in the battle to beat global warming.
> > > Flanked by climate campaigners former US
> > > vice-president Al Gore and British ex-diplomat
> > > Crispin Tickell, Sir Richard said he hoped the
> > > Virgin Earth Challenge would spur innovative and
> > > creative thought to save mankind from self-destruction.
> > > The prize will initially be open for five years,
> > > with ideas assessed by a panel of judges
> > > including Sir Richard, Mr Gore and Mr Tickell as
> > > well as Australian environmentalist Tim Flannery,
> > > US climate scientist James Hansen and Briton
> > > James Lovelock. "Man created the problem and
> > > therefore man should solve the problem," he said.
> > > "Unless we can devise a way of removing CO 2
> > > (carbon dioxide) from the Earth's atmosphere we
> > > will lose half of all species on Earth, all the
> > > coral reefs, 100 million people will be
> > > displaced, farmlands will become deserts and rainforests
> > > wastelands."
> > > Sir Richard rejected suggestions that he, as an
> > > airline owner, was being hypocritical in offering
> > > the prize. "I could ground my airline today, but
> > > British Airways would simply take its place," he
> > > said, noting that he was investing in cleaner engines and fuels.
> > > Top scientists predict that global average
> > > temperatures will rise by between 1.8 and four
> > > degrees this century due to human activities such
> > > as burning fossil fuels, putting millions at risk
> > > from rising sea levels, floods, famines and storms.
> > > Mr Gore, whose campaign film An Inconvenient
> > > Truth has helped spread the message, said all
> > > science showed something was drastically wrong
> > > but that Armageddon was not inevitable.
> > > The winner must devise a way of removing 1
> > > billion tonnes of carbon gases a year from the
> > > atmosphere for 10 years with $US5 million
> > > ($AS6.4m) of the prize being paid at the start and the rest at
> > the
> > > end.
> > > If no winner is identified after five years the
> > > judges can decide to extend the period.
> > > "This is the world's first deliberate attempt at
> > > planetary engineering," Dr Flannery said via
> > > video-link from Sydney. "We are at the last
> > > moment. Once we reach the tipping point it will
> > > have been taken out of our hands."
> > > REUTERS
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