[extropy-chat] an(other) Aussie visits Texas
Ben Goertzel
ben at goertzel.org
Mon Jan 29 00:17:05 UTC 2007
Robert,
I am curious for your new thoughts on aging mechanisms and life
extension. Any preprints you could share?
thx
Ben G
On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Robert Bradbury wrote:
>
> Damien,
>
> You need to *seriously* be worried about encouraging me to give up
> on humanity.
> I understand aging, I understand how to fix it and extend
> lifespan. I have significant questions about *why* one should
> bother to do so (propagating stupidity is of questionable value). [1]
>
> Posting URLs pointing out how *stupid* or uninformed the average
> U.S. citizen [2], particularly when they are misled [3], is causes
> me to debate seriously whether jumping off a bridge or jumping into
> the SI camp (of letting the damm "FAI" take over) might not be
> seriously better than the alternate paths.
>
> You run the risk of pointing out why the whole extropic effort is
> doomed. Is that your goal? If you make being "stupid" a low cost
> path then what one ends up with is more stupidity.
>
> Robert
>
> 1. I have been having discussions offlist with some about this.
> What is the point to saving collections of information which are
> destructive, unproductive, or potentially will ultimately have to
> be deleted. (There are strategies by which they might be saved but
> one needs to come up with a good reason for doing so.)
> 2. Which one would hope the "average U.S. citizen" is better
> educated than the average human on the planet -- at least they
> aren't murdering and/or raping and/or eating each other as tends to
> be the case in Uganda, Sudan and the Congo.
> 3. The commentator, no matter what his accent is is not the
> Australian Prime Minister. See [4]. Or is your goal to point out
> how people in the U.S. will believe any assertion by someone with a
> camera crew?
> 4. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/images/
> 20060516-1_p051606pm-0312jpg-515h.html
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