[ExI] Let's Canonize Samantha (Was Re: Other thoughts on transhumanism and religion)
sjatkins at mac.com
Sun Jun 3 05:02:53 UTC 2007
Go ahead. It already was published on WTA. Thanks.
On May 31, 2007, at 8:33 PM, Brent Allsop wrote:
> I think this post by Samantha should be Canonized. I, for one, having
> had a very similar experience, would definitely "support" a topic
> containing it, and I have counted at least 10 posts full of strong
> praise. Since there aren't that many topics in the Canonizer yet,
> if 9
> people supported this topic it wold make it to the top of the most
> supported list at http://test.canonizer.com
> How many others would be willing to "support" such a topic in the
> Canonizer if it was submitted?
> Samantha, would you mind if I posted this post in some other forums
> (Such as the Mormon Transhumanist Association, WTA...) to find out if
> there is similar support and praise on other lists?
> Brent Allsop
> Samantha Atkins wrote:
>> I remember in 1988 or so when I first read Engines of Creation. I
>> it with tears streaming down my face. Though I was an avowed atheist
>> and at that time had no spiritual practice at all, I found it
>> spiritually moving. For the first time in my life I believed that
>> the highest hopes and dreams of humanity could become real, could be
>> made flesh. I saw that it was possible, on this earth, that the
>> end of
>> death from aging and disease, the end of physical want, the advent of
>> tremendous abundance could all come to pass in my own lifetime. I
>> that great abundance, knowledge, peace and good will could come to
>> world. I cried because it was a message of such pure hope from so
>> unexpected an angle that it got past all my defenses. I looked at
>> cover many times to see if it was marked "New Age" or "Fiction" or
>> anything but Science and Non-Fiction. Never has any book so blown my
>> mind and blasted open the doors of my heart.
>> Should we be afraid to give a message of great hope to humanity?
>> we be afraid that we will be taken to be just more pie in the sky
>> glad-hand dreamers? Should we not dare to say that the science
>> and the
>> technology combined with a bit (well perhaps more than a bit) of a
>> of consciousness could make all the best dreams of all the
>> religions and
>> all the generations a reality? Will we not have failed to grasp
>> great opportunity if we do not say it and dare to think it and to
>> it? Shall we be so afraid of being considered "like a religion"
>> we do not offer any real hope to speak of and are oh so careful in
>> we do and say and dismissive of more unrestrained and open dreamers?
>> Or will we embrace them, embrace our own deepest longings and admit
>> kinship with those religious as with all the longing of all the
>> generations that came before us. Will we turn our backs on them or
>> disdain their dreams - we who are in a position to begin at long
>> last to
>> make most of those dreams real? How can we help but be a bit giddy
>> with excitement? How can we say no to such an utterly amazing
>> mind-blowing opportunity?
>> - samantha
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