[ExI] agency-based personal identity
thomas at thomasoliver.net
Tue Jun 26 06:41:52 UTC 2007
Jef Albright wrote:
> Uh...thanks, I think. But rather than "reducing [my] compulsion" to
> increase the coherence and extensibility of our thinking on these
> topics -- haven't you actually reinforced it? ;-)
I guess this highlights our divergent views on compulsion. I
discriminate between voluntary response and obligation driven
I encourage you to respond to "seeking minds," but not to feel
personally obligated to provide me with the "higher level" view.
> A band of musicians playing together can be greater than the sum of
> the musicians playing separately. But that greater cooperative act is
> the results of smaller acts of competition, selecting for arrangements
> that work together at the higher level.
We call the selection process "musical chairs" and the cooperative
act "concert." I know dueling soloists can be great fun. That
became stock fare for the common audience centuries ago. I indulge
in "trading fours" at every blues jam where I find a competent
competitor. My favorite capping tactic involves anticipating what my
opponent will play and harmonizing instead of attempting to outdo
her. It sounds so much better than wrangling for dominance.
I think Gordon challenged your chair with his "will as essence," but
failed the audition when he abdicated intellect. I don't see animal
drives as the essence of human nature . I don't see lagging self
awareness as all that relevant to human agency. I still have a
little trouble with agents acting for a "whatever type entity" since
that grants personhood status to all manner of abstract beings some
of which lack individuality. I never met a corporation with a
personality of its own. How do we handle agents posing as entities?
My suggestion: Abolish collective (and thus covert) title. Extend
this! -- Thomas
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