On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:21:14 -0400, Jef Allbright <jef at jefallbright.net> wrote: > I'm going in this direction only far enough to test whether you > and I both agree that the person's state is entirely determined in > physical terms, nothing essentially mystical in the background. Yes, we agree. I'm not referring to anything mystical. -gts