[extropy-chat] How to be copied into the future?
pgptag at gmail.com
Mon Mar 19 04:34:20 UTC 2007
So would I Anders. Just trying to cover all bases.
Clarke-Baxter technique: seem workable if the underlying assumption of
a high density distribution of micro wormholes in vacuum is correct.
Robert: yes, magic physics. But remember that television would have
been magic physics to Newton. One generation's magic is future
generation's engineering (Clarke again).
Motivation: perhaps the quickest thing is just resurrecting everyone.
When I cook beans I just throw them all in the water without choosing
the best ones.
On 3/18/07, Anders Sandberg <asa at nada.kth.se> wrote:
> Damien Broderick wrote:
> >>It's not clear to me that the
> >>chances of being saved by future posthumans is
> >>increased more, or even equally much, by a Ray
> >>Kurzweil way of living, than/as for example by a
> >>Mother Theresa way of being given that the
> >>posthumans value altruism more than anything else.
> > Only if posthumans are godschmucked idiots will
> > they wish to retrieve Mother Teresa. I suggest
> > you read Christopher Hitchens' book The Missionary Position.
> Or posthumans with a sarcastic sense of humour. "Hello madam. As you no
> doubt know, you have been dead for 334 years. During this time, did you go
> to heaven?"
> I think altruism is irrelevant as a "bait" for posthuman retrieval, as are
> most other motivations. Uniqueness makes much more sense. The more unique,
> interesting and tangled up in important things you are, the better. You
> might also go for the trick suggested by Charles Sheffield in _Tomorrow
> and Tomorrow_, where the protagonist deliberately set out to create
> mysteries only he knew the truth about, and ensured that future historians
> would know that he knew.
> But as Robert said, resurrection is unlikely to happen through
> Clarke-Baxter wormholes. I would bet on massive brute-force constraint
> calculations retrodicting the possible past, and that would create
> resurrections of everybody. It still remains to ensure that you get fished
> up from the simulator and given access to base reality if the posthumans
> are not totally into ultra-altruism (or something more sinister, like
> post-Jehova's Witnesses trying to convert *everybody* retroactively - the
> mormons may baptise past generations, but the PJWs will try to get them to
> join the church actively).
> I'd rather get to posthumanity by growing up into a posthuman than
> becoming their pet.
> Anders Sandberg,
> Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics
> Philosophy Faculty of Oxford University
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