[ExI] The void left by deleting religion

Keith Henson hkhenson at rogers.com
Fri May 4 18:52:49 UTC 2007


At 08:57 AM 5/4/2007 -0700, Jef wrote:
>On 5/4/07, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 04/05/07, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky <sentience at pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What I miss most myself is comfort, the reassurance that there's a
> > > higher power watching over you and that everything will turn out all
> > > right.  But I know I can never have *that* back this side of the dawn,
> > > and maybe not even then.  That feeling of comfort falls directly under
> > > the non-negotiable prescription:  That which can be destroyed by the
> > > truth should be.
> >
> > You obviously believe that the truth is better than falsehood and you're
> > probably right. However, it is at least logically possible that widespread
> > belief in a Noble Lie might have a net positive effect. In that case, is it
> > still better to destroy the Lie regardless of the consequences?

snip

>The "Nobel Lie" that you refer to would be in the category of
>subjective values, not in the category of (increasingly) objective
>instrumental methods.  And it would persist to the extent that it
>survived the ongoing process of competition between and selection for,
>values that "work."

I can thing of one lie, perhaps noble, perhaps not, that I think is required.

But it's a lie a rational religion would make taboo to talk about.

Keith




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