[ExI] abandon all services

giovanni santost santostasigio at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 29 18:20:45 UTC 2007


 
   
  Not fair....
  Italy is a fine country in many ways...
  there are certain peculiar problems, more to do with culture and the way we deal with situations than anything else....
  Yes, pay for scientists is absurdly low, true...but do you know what?
  I end up with zero dollars every month here in the US...
  and I make at least 3 times what scientists in Italy make...
  I had to leave the USA and go to Italy for an important surgery because my expensive USA's medical insurance would not cover the latest type of treatment and I had to pay a crazily high co-pay.
  In Italy they had an even more advanced treatment and it was completely free !
   
  and my brother shows me every day fantastic foods on the webcam....
  he has nice meals with his family every day, genuine food, and the familiar ties and friendship there are amazing...
  while I sit in my car eating Taco Bell
  in many ways Italian life is so much better in terms of things that are important than here in the USA... if you want to do science, sure, USA is the place, more money, less bureaucracy, and so on...
  Amara explained it, for a foreigner is tough to live in Italy, but Italians are not leaving easily Italy and if they do they miss it to death....
  They way to deal with bureaucracy in Italy is not to give it much credit at all...
  we know that rule are meant to be broken and you survive with such an attitude...it is controlled chaos, and chaos is the matrix of creation, quite literally in Italy...
  When I came here in the USA I brought with me such a mentality and almost killed me, because while I was quite adept to survive in Italy, my way of thinking and seeing things didn't work here at all.
  I was astonished by the way people take seriously bureaucracy, authorities, and deadlines and so on. It was very stressful and depressing.
  People seemed cold and distant, I basically still don't have many American friends, mostly people I know or work with...
  Yes, I have a nice house, I would have to be a millionaire in Italy to afford it, and I can do my science without asking mom to cook my meals and give me a roof on my head, but....
  and Italy as a scientific and technological country is not bad at all...
  many space missions have important devices and components designed and built in Italy, 
  Even modules of the space station, the recent Cassini mission and so on...
  Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maseratti..anybody ??
   
  McLauren engineers had to steal stuff from Ferrari to be competitive and they got caught and right now they are in trouble...
   
  It is a very peculiar country...
  It has always been....
  and still many wonderful things were created there and still are created...
  on the other hand in Italy we have 5 times less homicide than in USA,
  we don't have people suing you if you look them wrong and so on....
  There are sidewalks in Italy!!!
  And downtowns with people !!
  Beauty everywhere !!
  so come on people ....
     
   
   
  

John <desertpaths2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

  i am astonished about the state of modern italy. They sound like a third world nation (and something out of the classic film, brazil) . I wonder what their neighbors think of them. The ancient romans must be spinning in their graves! John grigg


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