[ExI] The point of emotions
Stathis Papaioannou
stathisp at gmail.com
Tue Apr 22 13:38:16 UTC 2008
2008/4/22 Stefano Vaj <stefano.vaj at gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > There are also practical and theoretical consequences to the theory
> > that other people have feelings; whether we can torture them with
> > impunity, for example.
>
> Are there really? Many would assume that torturing without reason
> something or somebody who persuasively show bad feelings about it
> denotes sadistic instincts anyway, whatever the subject may "really"
> feel.
Not really. People do all sorts of terrible things to characters in
computer games because they don't believe they have feelings, but only
*act* as if they have feelings. Myself, I eschew such behaviour, but I
won't call those who enjoy it sadistic.
> > Reluctantly, I have dropped that position and
> > now think that it is *very likely* other people have feelings.
>
> Fine. It is therefore reasonable to make similar assumptions about
> other biological or non-biological entities that exhibit a
> phenomenically similar behaviour in this respect, as natural empathy
> tends to dictate anyway.
Oh yes, I wasn't disputing this. What I was disputing is the idea that
we treat others as having minds while remaining agnostic on, or
indifferent to, the question of whether or not they have minds.
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Stathis Papaioannou
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