[ExI] flds raid, was general repudiation...

[spike]

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	From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Bloch
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		Spike notes

		>>> ...Texas FLDS compound that
		>>> was recently raided and the children removed...
		
		>>I hope that the silence you refer to is not just because
		we have become so completely used to, so inured, and
		so completely accustomed to governmental outrages
		and abuses against private parties that it just doesn't
		seem noteworthy anymore... Lee
		

	>I'm not so sure. Polyamory is one thing. Forcing 12-year-olds to
have sex with adults because "it's God's Will" is quite another, methinks.
	
	Joseph
	

No, neither of these, and do let me assure you I am not defending any
religious group.  The critical civics lesson here is that the Texas Child
Protective Services has set a precedent that it can seize one's children on
a rumor without due process or legal proof of allegations.  The CPS had a
mole inside the compound for four years, yet the report that spurred the
seizing of the children was evidently bogus, made by one who had never been
inside the compound.

With this action, the Texas CPS demonstrates that the constitutional rights
associated with depriving one of liberty or property does not apply to
depriving one of one's children.  A weird sort of logic is applied: taking
one's children is not exactly depriving one of liberty, nor is it depriving
one of property for one's children are not one's property.  Therefor the
TCPS can take the children, if the TCPS decides any of the following
criteria are met:

1.  Girls are being forced to marry against their will
2.  Boys are being taught to be abusers perhaps later in life
3.  Girls are being impregnated before the age of consent
4.  A threat to the safety of the children exists in the home
5.  Children are being taught that polygamy is acceptable
6.  Young girls are being married to old men.

The fact that the feds did not stop this action, nor did the ACLU raise more
than a token objection tells me that the Texas CPS has now the authority and
the duty to seize the children of *any* family that is proven to be Muslim.
Look at the list above.  Does the Muslim religion allow any or all of these?
If one were a Texas Muslim with children, my advice would be to flee that
state forthwith.

spike