At 07:14 PM 8/21/2008 -0500, I wrote with my eyes crossed: >But I wonder if it ought to have been closer to 4,802, 814 B.C.? What the hell am I talking about? Obviously that should be 4,802,588 B.C. (Those descending negative dates always get me confused; good thing I'm not a historian.) Damien Broderick