[ExI] I don't understand students: help !

PJ Manney pjmanney at gmail.com
Wed Dec 17 20:00:56 UTC 2008

My friend teaches biology (including the big intro/non-major class) at
Pepperdine and she makes all her students submit assignments typed and
submitted to her through turnitin.com, to check against both Internet
and other student's submission sources.  She makes it clear the first
day of class, that beyond the school's honor code rules (which it's
not her job to tell them), she will fail anyone who plagiarizes and
they will leave her class.  End of story.  Everyone (so far) has

While turnitin.com has its issues, apparently it is enough of a
deterrent to work for her.


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Tamás Pardy <m1n3r2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:49 AM, giovanni santost
> <santostasigio at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> What is happening with students ??
>> She is fighting with me claiming I never mentioned they could not paste and
>> copy to do their semester project and that she didn't do anything wrong. She
>> want to go and debate this with my superiors.
>> What is going on in the minds of these students?
>> She is not the only one with this sense of the entitlement and reckless
>> arrogance.
> I study to be an engineer and have a possible solution. We had a
> course on writing stuff like publications etc. and there the teacher
> (originally a journalist) ensured that we don't plagiarise by making
> us handwrite two (or so) pages. Actually, I hated that (and wrote on
> the computer, then copied it to paper:D) but it works! Plus if
> somebody gave in a plagiarised essay, they would have to rewrite it,
> or get a failed course...
> Besides all that, I think respect is the cornerstone of human
> interaction. And this has nothing to do with the quality of education
> or the people involved. This is something to be learned at a very
> young age (or should be, but is not currently taught at. say,
> elementary school). There were subjects at high school I didn't like,
> but at university one is given complete freedom to avoid those.
> Therefore I don't understand the behavior of the student in question.
> Tom
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