[ExI] the formerly rich and their larvae...

Damien Sullivan phoenix at ugcs.caltech.edu
Wed Feb 13 21:21:53 UTC 2008

On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 02:25:31PM -0600, Tom Tobin wrote:
> Geez.  I just realized that I'm sitting on the Extropy Institute
> mailing list ... the libertarian transhumanist mailing list ...
> complaining about libertarianism.  I must sound like a troll.  I'm
> sorry.  I'll go somewhere else.  ^_^

Well, back in the day, the list heads, while pretty libertarian
themselves, I thought tried to avoid having extropianism solidly tied to
libertarianism.  And in fact one of the big old-timers, David Krieger,
helped crack my teenage libertarian idealism.

And the Principles, while strongly pro-liberty, aren't explicitly
libertarian or anti-government; there's a lot in the fifth principle
which social democrats could get behind and say they foster better than
laissez faire.

Hmm, I see that "Self-direction" is more direct, though: 'Coercion of
mature, sound minds outside the realm of self-protection, whether for
the purported "good of the whole" or for the paternalistic protection of
the individual, is unacceptable.'

Still, extropianism is also supposed to be rational and empirical, so
what does one do if one feels radical libertarianism is neither?  Ah well.

-xx- Damien X-) 

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