[ExI] Eliot Spitzer and the Price-Placebo Effect
Lee Corbin
lcorbin at rawbw.com
Tue Mar 18 14:05:07 UTC 2008
BillK writes (hey, okay if I call you "Bill" from now on, or
do you prefer it this way?)
> Lee wrote:
> <snip>
>> Now isn't that going a bit far? For centuries and centuries, marketers
>> have known that price means a whole lot, but that packaging, salesmanship,
>> and other subtle effects also exist. Example...
>>
>> "Based on our systematic, unsurprising irrationality"? Surely a vast,
>> vast overstatement.
>
> That's the book working!
Not sure what that means, but don't answer if it's being
explained by your next words:
> You wouldn't buy a book that said that *occasionally* people make
> mistakes when buying stuff, would you?
Well, my book group might very well do that. But they are quite
the refined, careful, studious, skeptical, hideously rational gang.
I might buy such a book---but I do understand if you are saying
that blurbs have to exaggerate. Perhaps you should have mentioned
that you too found the claims a bit of an exaggeration, and avoided
my complaining :-)
> :) Everybody knows that. But he is making a stronger claim
> than that, with experimental evidence to back it up.
Based on your reputation here, Bill, I entirely believe you.
>> Makes sense. Greater understanding is good---and there can
>> always be higher profit as well as higher customer satisfaction
>> obtaining as a result too.
>
> Yes, That politician was paying well over the odds for sexual
> services, but thought he was buying something really special, so
> probably felt he got his money's worth.
>
> Just like a 60,000 USD car is not twice as good as a 30,000 USD car.
> Probably better, in some respects, if you like the extra trimmings,
> but definitely not twice as good.
Well, BUT! But the rich types are known to behave as though
money were not a factor. Again, I hate to be spouting what
"everyone knows", but for some few things, money is not a
factor even for me. I paid almost a hundred dollars the other
day for an old, old, thin out-of-print SF book (The Horror
>From the Hills) whose language totally captivated me (and
whose language even today I find hilarious). I lent to to a
friend back when I was 22 and that was the last I ever saw
of it. Later, I couldn't even remember the name. Finally when
our ever growing web finally yielded to my search on phrases,
I *had* to have it.
> One experiment showed that even if you didn't want any of the extra
> features, buyers still preferred it, because they thought they were
> getting more for their money. Even if they didn't want the extra junk!
Yeah, that's believable. Though I'd like a study done that indicated
what proportion of the populace was really susceptible to this, or
I dunno, a histogram or something.... The people I know watch
their dollars very carefully.
> Reading the reviews and extracts provide more amusing examples.
I'll check out the reviews at Amazon. Any other place I should look?
Thanks,
Lee
P.S. This is hardly about "Eliot Spitzer" any more, but I don't think
I'll have too much more to say about this, so I guess I'll just go
along with the general preference here alas, <sigh>, and hook in
those poor unsuspecting readers who want something about Eliot's
case or something directly relevant.
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