[ExI] Evolution "for the Good of the Group"
hkhenson at rogers.com
Mon Sep 22 15:22:40 UTC 2008
At 11:42 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:
>--- On Sun, 9/21/08, hkhenson <hkhenson at rogers.com> wrote:
> > You can use "evolution" to describe stars over
> > time, but it has
> > nothing to do with the mechanisms of biological evolution.
>Nonsense. The evolution of life is courtesy of and *powered* by
>stars. They are the *source* of all biological evolution to date
>from manufacturing the carbon atoms that make up life to pushing
>those atoms through the Kreb cycle. Every calorie that accrues on
>ones thighs has its ultimate origin in the sun. If under penalty of
>death, I *had* to worship a deity, guess what that diety would be?
Stellar evolution is not related to biological evolution. Different
classes of knowledge. Knowing a lot about one does not help you
understand the other.
> > >While I don't doubt that is certainly part of the
> > psychology of
> > >humans, I am not certain how much of that has a genetic
> > basis.
> > All human psychology has a genetic basis. Psychology
> > emerges from
> > brains. Brains are the product of genes. How could it be
> > otherwise?
>So you are saying that somebody who suffers from a post-traumamatic
>stress syndrome can pass it on to their kids? Come on.
Of course not. But you might note that genes do make a lot of
difference in how susceptible people are to PTSD.
>The idea that genes rule the world from the shadowy confines of
>cellular nuclei is as preposterous as any conspiracy theory.
Tell this to the parents of a kid with cystic fibrosis.
> > If you can cite an example where there is
> > evidence that
> > clearly rules out gene selection present or past, let me
> > know.
>Well if you consider Bonsai trees as a group, it is clear that there
>is no gene selection that underlies their phenotype.
Sheesh. That's really reaching.
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