[ExI] Mind Uploading article in Wikipedia

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Tue Apr 7 06:00:12 UTC 2009

2009/4/7 John K Clark <jonkc at bellsouth.net>:
> "Brent Allsop" <brent.allsop at comcast.net>
>> Wouldn't it be great to know concisely, quantitatively, what all
>> transhumanists think, and also what everyone else thinks, and why?
> That is what's so pathetic about your canonizer, the idea that what they
> write on it definitely settles the matter of what someone thinks about a
> matter. Everybody on this list will say they don't believe in vitalism and I
> am sure they will say the same on your canonizer. I don't think they're
> lying, I think they sincerely believe vitalism is wrong; but when you start
> to examine their ideas in detail and debate with them it very soon becomes
> apparent that they are wrong about what they think. The fact of the matter
> is that although they don't know it they passionately believe in vitalism;
> they must if there is any hope for their arguments to make the slightest bit
> of sense.

You haven't explained how vitalism or dualism would add anything new
to the claim that "it's not really me" when one already agrees that
the copy will be *exactly* like me, from materialist considerations

Stathis Papaioannou

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