[ExI] The Evils of the West
eschatoon at gmail.com
Tue Apr 14 17:07:02 UTC 2009
Why not just "On the world stage, this means trying to help all
societies acquire the institutions that deliver the goods", without
In practice I agree that the Western civilization has produced a lot
of good things that should be made available to other civilization.
But I do not agree that all that is Western is good, and all that is
not Western is bad. Perhaps we also have a few lessons to learn from
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Lee Corbin <lcorbin at rawbw.com> wrote:
> Eschatoon Magic wrote:
>> Thanks Lee for this very smart observation.
> Well, thank you, but in places it was rather badly written, I'm afraid.
>> Many of "us" are nice people... because we can afford it. In the past,
>> when we could not afford it, we were not nice.
> Yes, but to be more precise, being nice can arise
> out of habit. For example, it might take a nice,
> and healthy and wealthy person in our society
> many months of extremely grueling conditions to
> change over.
> And I believe I did state that the converse sadly
> isn't true: some comfortable people and some comfortable
> groups have been surprisingly wicked.
>> Many fellow human
>> beings born in other cultures still cannot afford being nice, and they
>> are not nice. Many fellow human beings born in _our_ culture still
>> cannot afford being nice, and they are not nice. Simple as that.
> Yes, though speaking about individuals, it is the exceptions
> to this rule that are quite interesting. Sometimes you'll
> find someone who's had a very rough go of it, but somehow
> manages to have amazingly great empathy for others.
> Born with a lot of it, I guess.
>> It follows that we should do our very best to give everyone the
>> possibility to be a nice person.
> On the world stage, this means trying to help all societies
> acquire the Western institutions that deliver the goods.
> Within nations, this means attempting to rub out subcultures
> (the cultures, of course, not the people in them) that nourish
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