[ExI] Tolerance

[Anna Taylor]

This is tolerance..lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Post Futurist <p0stfuturist at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Post Futurist <p0stfuturist at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Tolerance
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Received: Friday, December 11, 2009, 2:06 PM
> Easy? Who said it will be
> easy? Easy is prayer nd meditation ;)
> I am very cynical, but cynical doesn't always mean
> wrong. Perhaps philosophy is basically. gobbledygook. Is
> economics a science? doesn't appear to be. I'm going
> to concentrate on 'culture', however a construct it
> is. 
> Frankly, the worst religion today seems better than
> any politics-- only thing worse than a politician is an
> attorney.
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> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Samantha Atkins
> <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
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> From: Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Tolerance
> To: "ExI chat list"
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:54 PM
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> On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Stefano Vaj
> wrote:
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> 2009/12/11 Ben Zaiboc <bbenzai at yahoo.com>
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> It's a position of taking nothing on
> faith.  "I don't believe there are any
> gods" is a different thing to "I believe there are
> no gods".  In the first, you are not stating a
> faith in something, in the second, you are.
> 
> If you are a transhumanist, you should anyway rephrase it
> in "I believe there are no gods (yet)". ;-)
> 
> 
> What does that mean exactly?  If you mean a Mind
> so powerful it can create an entire universe as we know it
> within itself I have no idea if such exists now or not.
>   I have no evidence to believe that one does.  
>  I am fairly certain that such a Mind is possible
> however.
> 
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> There again, and trying to steer the thread more on
> subject, something which risks to make transhumanism
> impresentable in some quarters (e.g., academic posthumanism)
> is the idea that the future coming of gods is something to
> be taken for granted or inscribed in some cosmological
> necessity, rather than a possibility - and probably a
> possibility that would have to be actively pursued if it
> ever were to take place...
> 
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> I agree there are *much* easier ways to sell
> transhumanism than some high-falutin Cosmic
> Imperative.
> 
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> - samantha
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