[ExI] Sick of Cyberspace?

Stefano Vaj stefano.vaj at gmail.com
Tue Dec 22 14:42:18 UTC 2009


2009/12/18 Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org>:
> I figured out in vivo patching wasn't going to be feasible within
> natural lifetimes when I was around 17. From what has gone so far
> (almost 30 years) it looks like I was correct. Another 30-40
> years and I'll be distinctly past caring. Very little left to
> patch, if any.

Yes, I agree. But there again my initial interest in transhumanism was
more about reprogenetic techs, biotech, and (limited) enhancement than
about radical life extension.

> Cyborg belongs into in vivo patching cathegory. Doesn't work either,
> at least if implants in life extension and capabilities amplification
> are concerned. Wearable stuff is fine. Implanted stuff is no good.
> You'll notice we're not even in decent wearable cathegory. I would
> have bet good money a decade ago we would have normal people using HMDs
> and HUDs out in the streets by now.

Absolutely. Even though I was intrigued in principle by the idea that
transplants, implants and organ replacements had not precise
boundaries on the way to a full upload, and so...

>> In other words, if we are becoming machines, machines are becoming
>> "chemical" and "organic" at an even faster pace (carbon rather than
>> steel and silicon, biochips, nano...).
>
> Organic is one thing, biology another. It's a safe bet there will
> be zero proteins, DNA, lipid bilayers or water in the result after
> convergence.

Yes. What I mean is that be it as it may I do not really expect to see
artificial or "human" individuals in the shape of sci-fi movies of the
fifties (pulls, levers, thermoionic valves, etc.), à la Forbidden
Planet, at any time along such convergence.

-- 
Stefano Vaj



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