[ExI] iranian riots all a huge mistake

Mirco Romanato painlord2k at libero.it
Wed Jul 8 22:24:11 UTC 2009

Stathis Papaioannou ha scritto:
> 2009/7/8 Kevin Freels <kevin at kevinfreels.com>:
>> I'm always annoyed when I read such things. we are a young species. most of everything we know has been learned in the last 200 years. there are people alive who were born before powered flight. religious memes take advantage of religious genes that can't be just left vacant. instead I think they need to be replaced with rational memes that fulfill the same needs as religious memes. this type of replacement takes many generations and you just need to do your part to help those memes spread and have FAITH that they will. christianity has taken 2000 years to get to where it is now. it's not going to be replaced after a hundred or so years of real scientific progress. the human species is fine. it just needs some tweaking just like any other species.
> Religion has, indeed, slowly been dying due to lack of interest
> everywhere in the world for centuries. The two exceptions in the last
> century are Christian fundamentalism in the US and Islamic
> fundamentalism. But these are aberrations, fighting against the tide.
> The relative liberalisation and secularisation in Iran compared to
> immediate post-revolutionary period is evidence of this.

The problem for religions is that many obtained too much success and
wiped out their competition or obtained a monopoly from the government.
This cause them to become lazy and uninterested in retaining their
customers (like all monopolists).
The exceptions are in US, because the competition lasted anyway from the
different number of denominations and religions, in South America
(because many evangelical from the US went there and started
proselytizing igniting a fire under the ass of the Catholic hierarchies
there. In the same way, Islam was put in danger from the long string of
defeats occurred in the XIX and XX century, so they started to work
harder to keep their audience.

Iran is not difference, as the government support the religion (the
government is the religion), people don't matter any more and people
have started to look around for someone interested in them.
So, there are reports of a conspicuous number of conversions to
Christianity and Zoroastrianism (kept secret as possible). Other, simply
become atheists or believe in nothing.


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