[ExI] Americans are poor drivers

[Eschatoon Magic]

WWRD?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Rafal
Smigrodzki<rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:37 AM, Stathis Papaioannou<stathisp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/7/9 Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> ### Are you asking if I would buy these shares in an initial public
>>> offering?
>>
>> No, that would be a quite different situation. The shares are issued
>> to everyone for free, with the option of voting to change the
>> structure so that they can be sold and accumulated. You assume that
>> the shareholders would vote to do this, and maybe they would. But they
>> might also choose to leave things as they are, just as voters choose
>> to leave some assets and organisations in public control and to
>> privatise others. Now I understand that you think privatising
>> everything is for the best, and perhaps you also think that left to
>> their own devices people will decide to do just that. But what should
>> be done if, foolishly, they choose to keep some things communally
>> owned?
>>
> ### You are begging the question: You posit that some group of people
> may decide to use an accounting fiction to run their road system, you
> implicitly assume the legitimacy of a democratic polity, and then ask
> what to do. Well, obviously, if the people want to use an accounting
> fiction, an accounting fiction they'll have, and by the implicit
> assumption of legitimacy, this state of affairs cannot be changed
> except by a vote, which you already precluded in the premises.
>
> Am I clear?
>
> Rafal
>
> P.S. Of course, I refuse the assumption of democratic legitimacy,
> since it is based on violence and is inefficient as well, so
> personally I would endorse other actions to change the status quo -
> but you didn't ask WWRD (what would Rafal do), you asked an impersonal
> "what should be done".
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