I initially had high hopes for the Ares rockets... http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/07/death-knell-for-nasas-ares-roc.html John : ( -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/attachments/20090722/d80b4b92/attachment.html>