[ExI] left on iran

Mirco Romanato painlord2k at libero.it
Sat Jun 27 17:08:01 UTC 2009

Stefano Vaj ha scritto:
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Mirco Romanato<painlord2k at libero.it> wrote:
>> As Bruno Leoni wrote in his book, "The Freedom and the Law", not all
>> laws are legit.
> I am not arguing that one would be prevented from adopting a
> legitimacy concept where not all laws are OK even though they are
> approved through a constitutional mechanism by somebody elected by a
> majority of votes, nor that the only way to measure "consent" is a
> purely arithmetic electoral ballot.
> What I object to is the hypocrisy of claiming that one's prob with
> Amahdinejad is that he may have in fact obtained only 53% rather than
> 62%, when in fact a coup against him, Algeria-style, would be
> supported even if he had 95%, the supposed "will of the Iranian
> people" being totally immaterial to that position.

What we know is that the votes obtained by Amahdinejad are in the same
exact share in any and all electoral precincts, the counting needed a
week to be completed.
We know that, in Iran, there are many ways to tamper with the votes,
like buying birth certificates from the poor.
We know that they closed the pools before the time (when they kept them
open more of the time allowed in the last election).
We know that they have not a problem to kill people that don't agree
with them or oppose them, so we know that tampering with the ballots
would not be over their morality.
Then we have the proof that they tampered with the ballots. So we have
any right to believe that they didn't win the elections as they claim.

By the way, I would have supported a coup against Hitler, at the time,
even if he would had the support of the 90% of the Germans.
I would find nothing wrong to support one person against one million if
this person is only trying to preserve or regain his freedom without any
harm for others.

Anyway, I'm not interested in the election per se, both candidates were
not very different. I'm interested in the freedom of people. And here
freedom is at stake, not other.


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