[ExI] hitchins fans: hitchins on UN free speech proposal

Dagon Gmail dagonweb at gmail.com
Sat Mar 7 08:21:33 UTC 2009

It's saddening, but this will cause the disappearance of the UN and the
emergence of a
league of democratic nations.

Unfortunately - what if this league requires the US becomes a full democracy

2009/3/7 Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com>

> 2009/3/7 spike <spike66 at att.net>:
> > Depends on how one defines "behave better."  Making blasphemy illegal
> seems
> > like a license for any organization, regardless of how egregious, to have
> > arbitrary legal sanction against it's enemies.  We have already seen how
> a
> > "religion" has used that against one of our own.  Imagine any religion
> being
> > given the authority to do that.  I can imagine the radical Presbyterians
> > would want to have a word or two with me for instance.  I don't see any
> > legal way to define exactly what is and what is not a religion, and what
> > actually constitutes criticism.
> I don't agree with the UN making blasphemy illegal, but the UN is
> unlikely to pass a motion proposing that blasphemers have their tongue
> cut out, for example, while an individual member state conceivably
> might do so. I would feel safer if the UN had the power to veto
> legislation that my government passed which the rest of the world
> considered a heinous crime, even though the human rights record of
> most of the voting nations is probably worse than that of mine.
> --
> Stathis Papaioannou
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