[ExI] Group Selection Advances

[spike]

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> 
> Isn't this disproved by the falling birth rates in first 
> world societies?
> 
> Developed societies are deciding that riches and a 
> comfortable lifestyle is preferable to the trouble and 
> expense of raising children.
> 
> Surely it isn't in the self interest of the genes to reduce 
> reproduction?
> 
> BillK

>>humans evidently have all these meta-memes which mess with our instincts.
spike

>Could you be more specific?  I don't know what you might mean by this.
Keith

Keith and BillK, this gets to what I meant with the instincts comment.
Humans don't act only on instinct.  We think, we look at the bigger picture.
If we operated on instinct, we would mate like crazy.  Hmmm, we do mate like
crazy.  OK bad example.  {8^D  We wouldn't work in an office 9 to 5 that's
for sure.  We choose our mates partly based their wealth for instance, or
perceived stability, instead of the more standard instinctive stuff like the
size and shape of the body, or perceived fertility, the stuff that is so
popular in the rest of the animal kingdom.  Lucky for me.  {8^D

This makes us a difficult subject to study from an evolutionary point of
view.

spike