[ExI] libertarians and inheritance
John K Clark
jonkc at bellsouth.net
Tue May 5 20:06:20 UTC 2009
>> If I come to the conclusion that one of my ideas is not as productive as
>> a competing idea I have absolutely no loyalty and will switch sides in
>> one second flat.
"samantha" <sjatkins at mac.com>
> Productive? Within what standards of valuing?
You seem to want a definition of "productive"; I'm a little surprise, I
hadn't realized the word was exotic and assumed it was widely know.
I fear there is little point in supplying a definition because it would be
made of words and I'm sure you would demand another definition of
at least one of those words.
> How to you measure "productive"
Superbly, if I do say so myself!
> you are suffering from a lack of imagination it would seem.
No, just lack of faith.
John K Clark
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> John K Clark wrote:
>> "Dan" <dan_ust at yahoo.com>
>>> My statement was and remains that you're _not_ a libertarian [.] The
>>> ability to draw conclusions about some point of view does not mean one
>>> an adherent of that point of view.
> Quite correct. That one can run a political/philosophical memeset to draw
> consistent conclusions does not mean that you chose to consistently act
> from that memeset.
>> So according to you to be a supporter of an idea a belief in good results
>> derived from that idea is not sufficient to become a true adherent.
> No, many people act contrary to what they believe is good or leads to
> good results or drop such under a bit of pressure.
>> You think there must be something else, something more important than the
>> conclusions derived from a point of view. I can't imagine what that
>> something else could be except faith.
> Then you are suffering from a lack of imagination it would seem.
>> I don't have faith in anything and think it's a vice not a virtue. If I
>> to the conclusion that one of my ideas is not as productive as a
>> idea I have absolutely no loyalty and will switch sides in one second
> Productive? Within what standards of valuing? How to you measure
> "productive", "better" or "worse"?
>> If somebody has a better argument than I have I will drop my old point of
>> view and embrace the new one as my own. I'm a libertarian but even that
>> doesn't get a free pass, it has to earn its way.
> Well sure. Such memesets should not be free floating abstractions.
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